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63 Avanti Pressure and return hose routing

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  • Steering: 63 Avanti Pressure and return hose routing

    I guess this one has been here before. Looking at the old posts helps some but most are missing the original photos that were in the post. Since my pressure hose has a slot being cut in its side by the valve moving back and forth, it will have to go. Some PO adapted a hydraulic hose from "something" from the P/S pump to the valve with adapters and simply cut a length of hose for the return line and clamped it to s stub of a tube into the valve. These are routed up and around the top of the regulator on the apron and to the pump. There is no "spring sling" attached to the steering box so I'm lost as to how they should be installed once I get new ones from SI. No mention of the correct place for them in the repair manual, I guess the assumption was to just put new ones in the same place as the old ones were. Any photos of the correct routing that doesn't lead to chafing the hoses would be appreciated, especially from the top side looking at the apron and pump so I can see how the control arm misses them and how they transition to the bottom of the frame rail for the valve .

  • #2
    sbca96 I sent you a private message to ask if you still had the photos from your 2007 posting re power steering hose routing, as the photo location is no longer valid.
    Fred
    Last edited by karterfred88; 05-26-2014, 07:18 PM. Reason: spelling

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    • #3
      did you try here? http://www.studebaker-info.org/tech/...steerctlm.html
      Bez Auto Alchemy
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      • #4
        One more thing to watch for, the LP hose was a bit too long and rubbed up against something warm (Exhaust?) It burned through the hose and I lost all my fluid.
        63 Avanti R1 2788
        1914 Stutz Bearcat
        (George Barris replica)

        Washington State

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JBOYLE View Post
          One more thing to watch for, the LP hose was a bit too long and rubbed up against something warm (Exhaust?) It burned through the hose and I lost all my fluid.
          Yikes, you're running her on LP, good thing it didn't go boom!! I know, the low pressure hose but LP would be more interesting, and something I may consider soon, as everything I install, unearths another problem. I don't think I'll be taking it to the state inspection station soon, as I had hoped.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
            Thanks, these help, but I need a picture a little further back and looking down to see how they wrap the frame rail from the top. Mine are now routed back from the pump to the top of the left apron, shoved between the positive cable to the solenoid and back of the voltage regulator. Then they drop down and over the rail behind the "A" frame and back to the valve with nothing holding them in place

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            • #7
              Fred,

              I didnt realize you had a thread going on this. I do not have access to pictures posted
              by others, I can however take pictures you need and post them. You can very carefully
              describe what you need or take pictures of where you need, and I will match them. Car
              is currently up in the air, now is a good time to do this. I will be putting it back on the
              ground tomorrow (Friday).

              Tom
              '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
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              • #8
                Here are all the steering threads I did, I see the pump one was ruined (restored what I could).

                This one I never got back to :

                Power-Steering-Ram-Rebuild-how-to

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...Rebuild-how-to

                Just repaired this one :

                Power-Steering-Pump-Rebuild-how-to

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...Rebuild-how-to

                Fixed this one too :

                Power-Steering-Hoses-Replace-how-to

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...Replace-how-to

                Finally updated this one :

                Power-Steering-Control-Valve-how-to

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...l-Valve-how-to

                Lots of tech in this thread from hoses to control valves (most moved to above) :

                power-steering-system-rebuild-Q-A

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...m-rebuild-Q-A/

                Fixed a couple pictures here :

                power-steering-40-years-kaboom

                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...0-years-kaboom!

                Tom
                '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
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                • #9
                  Do these work?





                  Tom
                  '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                  Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
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                  • #10
                    Tom,
                    Thanks, they look totally different than the way mine are installed. the only use of a "clip" is on the L and R turn hoses in 2 spots, the pressure and return are just hanging down by the front/rear brake distribution fitting, nothing holding or guiding them at all.
                    Fred

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                    • #11
                      This is how the manual shows and how the car was originally when I received it, granted
                      someone may have rerouted them at some point, but it seems to match the book.

                      Tom
                      '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                      Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
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                      • #12
                        Thanks ,
                        Thanks to Tom and Mike Mudd from 2002, I am able to get the hoses installed at the control valve in a way it was probably meant to be. As you can see from my photo I had little to work with. Just one more question, not wishing to be a pain or sounding dumb, which port on the power "slave" cylinder is right turn (top or bottom). I can tell the right hoses to get there, but since my "originals" look nothing like the replacements (though they fit perfectly at the valve with no tweaking necessary) and are labeled well, which goes where at the slave.

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                        • #13
                          Fred,

                          The inner hose on the control valve closest to the starter goes to the top port on the power ram.

                          Tom
                          '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                          Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                          http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                          I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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