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  • R1 or R-none?

    A little long-term concept work...

    I'm planning a 62 Daytona 289 4-spd. car... I have a 289 4 bbl. from a 62 GT, and a (possible) line on a R1... I'm looking to build a good driver with a little power, probably aftermarket A/C... not trying to beat Harbit, but want to be able to make the Camaros at least do a double-take from traffic lights![8D]

    Assuming fresh, near-stock engines, what do you recommend for what I'm doing?

    Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
    Parish, central NY 13131

  • #2
    Unless you don't mind buying premium I'd go with the regular 289, with a 4 bbl, duals and maybe one of Teds cams it will have plenty of pep and you should still get decent gas mileage if you can keep your foot out of it.

    If the 4 bbl is the stock one you will do better with a modern Edelbrock and a modified intake like Jeff Rice makes.

    Of course depending on your budget there are all kinds of things you can do, it's the old question, how fast can you afford to go!

    Jeff DeWitt
    Jeff DeWitt


    • #3
      Bob, you and I are thinking along the same lines. I just picked up a 289 2-V engine over the weekend. My '64 Daytona is an original 4-speed car, and I'm planning on the 4-V, a cam, etc, with A/C. I wonder if we team up we can get a multipart discount ?

      Tom - Valrico, FL

      1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed

      Tom - Bradenton, FL

      1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
      1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD


      • #4
        FWIW, putting an R2+ cam in a 8.5 CR 225hp 289" will make it a real dog in normal driving. The longer duration will bleed off too much compression at lower engine speeds, thus less throttle response, lower fuel mileage. That much cam duration needs at least 9.5 CR and it will work with the 10.25 CR R1 pistons if everything is just right with the carburetion, ignition and exhaust.

        thnx, jack vines



        • #5
          What Jack said.

          You can run those dished 9.5:1 pistons with an R1 cam, but I dobut it would make much more real world power than a stock cam--most of the extra power would be up in the RPM range where it wouldn't add a whole lotta fun around town with a 4-spd.

          Now, if you port the heads, put in bigger valves, etc. a bigger cam might be a LOT of fun--when shifing from second to third at about 70 mph!

          For off the line around town fun, build a stong 289 with a 500 cfm 4bbl and 2 inch duals with Flowmasters and have a ball.

          That said, the most fun I've ever had with a daily driver was an R1 4spd Lark--I ran flat tops with thick head gaskets, used a lot of octane booster and wasn't very aggressive with the timing . . .