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  • cultural infidel
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    Originally posted by kmac530 View Post
    Infidel,
    One rear brake hose, 2 lines. One hose goes from the line on the frame to a T on the diff, then splits in the the T and is a hard line going each way to the drums and WC. So 1 "hose".
    The fronts move independantly so the have 2 flex hoses. One on each drum/caliper.
    Thanks! 3 hoses to be ordered!
    Originally posted by RadioRoy View Post
    You might do the brakes first and the brews afterwards. Some folks get sloppy pretty quickly when they imbibe. Remember, your life depends on these brakes as well as any innocent passengers in the car.
    No worries there mate. We are going to fix the car then bbq and brew it up!

    Oh and test the new brakes out.

    Last thing that i will really need to be on the road is tires. Its coming together slowly but surely

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  • RadioRoy
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    You might do the brakes first and the brews afterwards. Some folks get sloppy pretty quickly when they imbibe. Remember, your life depends on these brakes as well as any innocent passengers in the car.

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  • kmac530
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    Infidel,
    One rear brake hose, 2 lines. One hose goes from the line on the frame to a T on the diff, then splits in the the T and is a hard line going each way to the drums and WC. So 1 "hose".
    The fronts move independantly so the have 2 flex hoses. One on each drum/caliper.
    Last edited by kmac530; 05-04-2012, 05:52 PM.

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  • cultural infidel
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    Originally posted by 55 56 PREZ 4D View Post
    Do you have a dual master cylinder ? If not changing over to one is a great idea.
    65 Drum brakes - dual master. Disc brakes - single master. I think.
    Clean up the backing plates and a little lubriplate grease on the pads where the shoes rub.
    Do 0NE side at a time so you have the other side to compare.
    If you've never done brake work before probably best to have someone knowledgable look them over after you're done.
    Ya never know, ya know ?
    It does have a dual master cylinder and the replacement that came with the car is a dual.

    We have Lubriplate 130AA on the shelf in our shop that I can grab a tube of if that will work for this application. According to the website, it should. http://www.lubriplate.com/webstore/detail.aspx?ID=16 My boss said that I can have a tube of it for my garage. Sure is expensive on their site! Maybe I need to raise my prices lol

    My cousin-in-law is going to be helping me with them. He says that he has all the tools and has done many brake jobs in the past. He figures it should take an afternoon and a few brews.

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  • 55 56 PREZ 4D
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    Do you have a dual master cylinder ? If not changing over to one is a great idea.
    65 Drum brakes - dual master. Disc brakes - single master. I think.
    Clean up the backing plates and a little lubriplate grease on the pads where the shoes rub.
    Do 0NE side at a time so you have the other side to compare.
    If you've never done brake work before probably best to have someone knowledgable look them over after you're done.
    Ya never know, ya know ?

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  • cultural infidel
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    Thanks for the tip Matt. The prices on there are great!

    Brings another question regarding Brake Hoses: Is there 1 in the back or 2? I see a "center" hose offered and rear right/left offered. What was the standard on these cars? I would dive under mine but I am no where near it right now.

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  • mbstude
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    Originally posted by cultural infidel View Post
    finally at a point where I can start ordering the parts for this job. What is the difference going to be between the Stude Intl and Autozone shoes? There is a big price difference between the two. Ordering the new flex hoses for front and back today from Napa.
    I bought all of my brake parts for the '57 wagon (I did a full rebuild) from rockauto.com. A fraction of the cost from other places.

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  • cultural infidel
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    finally at a point where I can start ordering the parts for this job. What is the difference going to be between the Stude Intl and Autozone shoes? There is a big price difference between the two. Ordering the new flex hoses for front and back today from Napa.

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  • K-Hawk
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    pack wheel bearings while it is apart good time for grease job 1 side at a time

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  • K-Hawk
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    Get all your parts some cup cake pans to keep small parts in and a cookie sheet or 2 to keep wheel cylinder... on, perhaps lay a cloth down fits, Compare new and old parts clear every thing. It helps is hard to find, rent a pressure bleeder and follow the instructions, Bleed the furthermost wheel from the master cylinder first, then right rear left rear left front then lastly right front, check for leaks,if brakes are adjusted you will have a nice firm break pedal. Use correct brake fluid a nice dot 5, I don't like silicone.

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  • Tom Bredehoft
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    Consider replacing your steel lines, too, not just the cylinders. It would be a shame if a rust spot you missed let go the first time major pressure was applied, leaving you rolling down a grade toward a stop sign. They aren't hard to do, you can find replacement lines, or using ready made lengths, make your own.

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  • showbizkid
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    Line wrenches look like this:



    They're made so you can slip them over tubing and have more surface gripping the nut than a regular wrench gives you.

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  • ROADRACELARK
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    Don't hesitate to replace the two front flex hoses, and the one rear. These have a bad habit of collapsing internally and will make the wheel cylinder, or rear brakes, not release. This condition is often not visible on the outside of the hose. Cheap insurance. Disassemble all wheel cylinders and look closely for rust pitting. Replacement cylinders are available if yours can't be rebuilt. Also consider installing DOT 5 fluid, it will not absorb moisture as will DOT 3. I've used it for many years without any problems. I flush the entire system with brake cleaner, then with compressed air, blow it dry. Hope this helps.

    Dan Miller
    Auburn, GA

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  • 63 R2 Hawk
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    If you buy line wrenches, don't get the cheapest ones you can find. This is one tool where it pays to go to the Snap-on guy or Mac, even Craftsman makes a pretty decent set. I bought a "bargain" set years ago and ended up ruining a brake fitting due to a poorly fitting wrench that sprung open a little while trying to remove a very stubborn fitting. I have had old cars in the past where I had to remove the cylinder with the line attached (disconnected the other end on the differental) so I could thread a box end wrench all the way down the line to the cylinder fitting. You are lucky to have flanged axles!

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  • cultural infidel
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    Thanks for all of the tips and info. Pictures will definitely be taken. This is a 65 with the Flanged Axles. Never heard of slotted Line Wrenches. Sounds like new tools are in my future

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