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  • Can't get into gear!

    Ok fellas, maybe you experts can chime in and figure out a way to fix my Scotsman.

    My truck has a 3 on the tree.
    I had to make a run to town, so I got in the truck, fired it up, put it in reverse and backed out of the carport. I went to pull it down into First, and it was in 3rd. For some reason, it will only go into 2nd and 3rd gear. Not sure what happened, but something broke!
    I can pull 'up' (towards the steering wheel) on the shifter handle, but no matter how far I pull it, it will not go into 1st or reverse. I can reach down and pull the shifter shaft/tube (goes down into the floor alongside the steering column) up towards the steering wheel, and then drop the handle into 1st. I noticed that the long shaft appears to have dropped down maybe half an inch from what it should be.

    Any clues fellas? What broke? How do I fix it?

    Gotta get this thing fixed!


    Matthew Burnette
    '59 Scotsman
    '63 Daytona
    Hazlehurst, GA


  • #2
    Sorry that happened Matthew. I am sure someone will know what happened and how to fix it. I had a hard time getting my 52 into first at SB, but it starts off in second just fine.

    I am going to put the transmission that I bought from Ted Harbit in tomorrow.



    Leonard Shepherd
    http://leonardshepherd.com/

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    • #3
      Good luck with the trans swap. Make sure the clutch and shifter linkages are all adjusted.

      There's another '59 Scotsman PU at the shop, and nothing is left of it except for the cab, bed, and steering/shifter setup. If it's OK, I may just swap it all out. I think that would be a lot easier that fixing what's wrong with mine. [xx(] My steering box has too much slop anyways. I hope to get it all back going soon, this is my only ride!

      I can start off in 2nd as well, but it does strain that little 6 a bit. Or, I can reach down and pull the shift tube up and then go into 1st or reverse. If I don't get it fixed, I'll be OK for a little while. [^]

      Where's that weird wheel puller and black spray paint?...

      Matthew Burnette
      '59 Scotsman
      '63 Daytona
      Hazlehurst, GA

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      • #4
        Allright guys. I'm convinced that something has broke inside that little shifter 'gearbox' that mounts on top of the steering box.
        The plan for now is to take the steering column/shifter setup out of the '59 Scotsman parts truck and put it in mine. (From one Scotsman to another!)

        We shall see...

        Matthew Burnette
        '59 Scotsman
        '63 Daytona
        Hazlehurst, GA

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        • #5
          Thats the way a frugal Scotsman (pun intended) would do it Matt.I think the South Bend gremlins have invaded both yours and Leonards vehicle.


          quote:Originally posted by mbstude

          Allright guys. I'm convinced that something has broke inside that little shifter 'gearbox' that mounts on top of the steering box.
          The plan for now is to take the steering column/shifter setup out of the '59 Scotsman parts truck and put it in mine. (From one Scotsman to another!)

          We shall see...

          Matthew Burnette
          '59 Scotsman
          '63 Daytona
          Hazlehurst, GA

          Frank van Doorn
          Omaha, Ne.
          1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
          1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
          1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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          • #6
            quote:Thats the way a frugal Scotsman (pun intended) would do it Matt.
            Lol! Pretty funny there Frank! And I completely agree!

            I have to say though, after putting nearly 6000 miles on this truck, the only other problems I've had are a clogged gas line (my fault) and the points went out. I was long overdue for something to break. [)]

            Matthew Burnette
            '59 Scotsman
            '63 Daytona
            Hazlehurst, GA


            Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track

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            • #7
              Should be a piece of cake geting it back on the road as you guys have a parts truckConsidering how many times this truck has been shifted in he last 48 some years something has to give out at some point as it is so far beyond it engineered in life expectancy.
              Frank van Doorn
              Omaha, Ne.
              1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
              1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
              1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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              • #8
                Yepp, parts cars are really the trick...

                quote:Considering how many times this truck has been shifted in he last 48 some years something has to give out at some point as it is so far beyond it engineered in life expectancy.
                Well, not quite that much. 56K original miles and the truck sat in a barn for 20 years before we got it. [)]

                How's the '41 coming?

                Matthew Burnette
                '59 Scotsman
                '63 Daytona
                Hazlehurst, GA


                Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track

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                • #9
                  How's the 41 coming?

                  Haven't touched it since getting back from SB on Sunday Matt, had to do yard work etc. I intend to get serious about yanking the motor the week after next as next week I have to get my GT ready for the Goodguys show in Des moines Iowa.Its just a matter of 8-10 bolts to get front clip off, after that the motor mounts and she is ready to come out, all lines and hardware have been removed allready.
                  Frank van Doorn
                  Omaha, Ne.
                  1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
                  1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
                  1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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                  • #10
                    Hi Matthew,

                    Had a 49 pick-up that used to lock-up when shifting maybe a couple of times a year. I'd pry off the plug on the control shift box, take a big screwdriver and manually ratchet the gear teeth around till they engaged in the proper pattern.

                    Hope you get the Scotsman operating properly again. May it's just light headed from cruising around the proving ground track!

                    Cabrina Dieters
                    Murfreesboro TN

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                    • #11
                      This won't fix your shifter. But might put a smile on your face.


                      Thought you might like this.

                      63 Twin Supercharged Avanti
                      64 Avanti R3w/NOS
                      88LSC Avanti 350 Supercharged w/NOS

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                      • #12
                        [quote]Originally posted by Karl

                        This won't fix your shifter. But might put a smile on your face.


                        Thought you might like this.

                        Now that's what I like to see... a Stude Truck holding up a couple of Avanti's[:0][}]

                        Mark
                        57 Transtar
                        Mark Hayden
                        '66 Commander
                        Zone Coordinator
                        Pacific Can-Am Zone

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                        • #13
                          Thanks Karl! My truck actually looks a little shiny there!
                          Who's that kid standing off to the far right?

                          Matthew Burnette
                          '59 Scotsman
                          '63 Daytona
                          Hazlehurst, GA


                          Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track

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                          • #14
                            No idea? Some one e-mailed me the picture. Thought it was kinda neat seeing you truck at the front of the pack.[8D]

                            63 Twin Supercharged Avanti
                            64 Avanti R3w/NOS
                            88LSC Avanti 350 Supercharged w/NOS

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                            • #15
                              I agree Karl and Mark. Nothing like my old truck holding up a bunch of Avantis. [)]

                              Good news! My uncle and I got the shifter problem fixed. The little pot-metal collar/clamp thingy at the top of the steering column that holds the shifter tube/shaft was damaged. It's threaded where the shift tube goes in, and a little metal 'rod' is screwed into it. The tube fits over that, and it also serves as a pivot point for the shift handle. Well, where the rod screws into the collar was stripped out. We pulled the steering wheel off, took off that collar and replaced it with one from the parts truck. Put it all back together, and WOW, does it all work better! I guess that collar has been worn out for a while, and just now decided to let go!



                              Matthew Burnette
                              '59 Scotsman
                              '63 Daytona
                              Hazlehurst, GA


                              Cruising the Proving Ground Test Track

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