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  • Cobra/GT Mustang brake brackets are arriving

    Edit per new picture location : 12/1/08

    I just picked up the first two sets from the CNC shop with the engraving,
    it came out pretty nice. These already have owners, so I will be able to
    get some feedback as to how well Studebaker kept their tolerances. They
    go with me tomorrow to be checked on the surface plate for all the critical
    dimensions. Things are moving along now.

    Changes from the "First Article" set include, the "key hole" shaped grease
    trap to a "cam lobe" shape, and of course - the engraving.

    Development has started on the GT rear caliper mounting bracket, and it
    will soon follow with a Cobra rear caliper mounting bracket.



    Tom

    '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
    '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
    Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
    http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
    I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

  • #2
    Tom, why not just ingrave RAD in bigger letters and leave the rest off as you won't be able to see it anyway?
    64 Champ long bed V8
    55/53 Studebaker President S/R
    53 Hudson Super Wasp Coupe

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    • #3
      Don't want anyone confusing them with "RAD RIDES".

      Trust me .. you [u]can</u> see them.

      Tom

      quote:Originally posted by Kdancy

      Tom, why not just ingrave RAD in bigger letters and leave the rest off as you won't be able to see it anyway?
      '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
      Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
      http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
      I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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      • #4
        Ooooo - shiny!!

        As a related topic, how do you protect aluminum to keep it that way? Clear coat paint, wax? We have used clear anodizing on handrails, but it's not cheap or locally available.

        Jim

        1966 Avanti II RQA 0088
        Jim
        Often in error, never in doubt
        http://rabidsnailracing.blogspot.com/

        ____1966 Avanti II RQA 0088_______________1963 Avanti R2 63R3152____________http://rabidsnailracing.blogspot.com/

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        • #5
          You can clear coat, or you can clear anodize. 6061-T6 aluminum will
          just oxidize over time and create a "protective" coating similar to
          anodizing. Our company ships flat black only. Keep in mind that the
          heat from the brakes will cause the clear coat to yellow and crack
          just like your clear coated rims. Personally, I think either anodize
          or leave plain and let them oxidize.

          Tom
          '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
          Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
          http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
          I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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          • #6
            Clear anodize will also yellow with age and heat.
            Black will turn greyish (sometimes with whiteish spots) and red will turn pink!
            Blue will lighten or turn purple depending on the original mixture.

            As Tom says..."auh naturaal" is best. You'll get a "little" anodic corrosion between the steel and aluminum...but it'll take a LONG time (lots'a years) before there should be any concern. A light coat of grease during assembly on the bare steel will go a long way toward fending any corrosion off. Don't paint the steel where the bracket goes.

            Tom...
            Who ever did the machine work...nice job.

            Mike

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            • #7
              Lookin' good!
              Are you noting a number or something so you can track them?
              Jeff[8D]
              HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

              Jeff


              Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



              Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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              • #8
                Thanks Mike, and all, for the compliments. Jeff, I hadn't though of
                that. What is the benefit of doing so, I am curious.

                Tom

                quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
                Are you noting a number or something so you can track them?
                Jeff
                '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                • #9
                  Warranty, Sales Tracking, Marketing, NHTSA, etc.
                  After a car with your brackets get sold three or four times, things can get confused.
                  ISO methodology mandates tracking of products before, during, and after the sale. While this won't ever be a huge production run, the thought behind product tracking is a sound one. Ask any product liability lawyer, or your product insurance lawyer. He'll fill you in.
                  Jeff[8D]



                  quote:Originally posted by sbca96

                  Thanks Mike, and all, for the compliments. Jeff, I hadn't though of
                  that. What is the benefit of doing so, I am curious.

                  Tom

                  quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK
                  Are you noting a number or something so you can track them?
                  Jeff
                  HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                  Jeff


                  Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



                  Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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                  • #10
                    Greetings, Tom/sbca96,

                    While I haven't bought any Wilwood stuff lately, they used to send a statement, which if one interpreted it literally, meant, "Suitable for use as a paperweight only, and if you drop it on your bare foot, we aren't responsible for that either."

                    Get some good advice on writing a disclaimer to go with each set. As I remember, in the past, you had an unpleasant experience with the court system. You don't want to go back as a defendant when lives and large dollars are involved.

                    Your disclaimer should read something like:

                    "This part is intended as a starting point for those capable of designing and testing racing brake systems. It is not intended for street-driven applications. It does not directly replace OEM brake system parts. It has not been tested for durablility or effectiveness. No warranty is expressed or implied. User will determine the suitability for his intended use."



                    PackardV8
                    PackardV8

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                    • #11
                      I wrote up a very similar release form, that I converted to a PDF, and
                      will require to be signed before parts are shipped. Basically it says
                      what yours does, that the part should be installed by a knowledgable
                      person, they are for OFF ROAD use on a private road course, they agree
                      that 6061-T6 is up to the challenge, by installing them, or having them
                      installed, the undersigned assumes any & ALL responsibilty. They will
                      use the recommended graded attaching bolts, and that the hub changes
                      are also proven and by modifying them they assume all risk. That by
                      signing below they release, myself, my family, my cat and anyone else
                      connected to the creation of this part - for any and all damages that
                      might result from them being installed.

                      Wheeeeew.

                      I had a Lawyer look it over, and it all looks good. Though, with our
                      legal system the way it is .. someone can still try and sue. Someone
                      who breaks into your house to rob you slips on your throw rug in the
                      kitchen can sue you. Isnt that great?

                      Tom
                      '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                      Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                      http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                      I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                      • #12
                        Goodness the finish looks great, awesome engineering. What if your cat slings the rug at the burglar....? Hope your endeavor goes well and thanks for all your previous advice!

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                        • #13
                          Those look cool, Tom! Hope they work out for you. It'd be cool to have 'em, but I'm a stock wheel and hubcaps guy...

                          Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                          Parish, central NY 13131
                          http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Stan ..

                            Robert, the GT calipers will allow a 15 inch rim to be used, and from
                            the info I have received late model Crown Victoria steel wheels should
                            clear the GT brakes properly allowing the use of Stude hubcaps. This
                            is not confirmed by me yet, but hopefully will be eventually.

                            Right now I am waiting for fitment feedback from the first two sold.

                            Tom
                            '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                            Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                            http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                            I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                            • #15
                              quote:Originally posted by sbca96

                              I wrote up a very similar release form, that I converted to a PDF, and
                              will require to be signed before parts are shipped. Basically it says
                              what yours does, that the part should be installed by a knowledgable
                              person, they are for OFF ROAD use on a private road course
                              How many do you expect will be used for "off road" use only?

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