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    Was the '64 R/3 the only blown Studebaker engine to utilize a 4bbl carb ?

  • #2
    Where did you get that one? All FOUR R Series Type Engines had AFB Carter 4 barrels, just different models.

    The '63-'64 standard 259 and 289's also used the AFB Carter, larger secondary, 4 brl. Carbs. as an option.
    Last edited by StudeRich; 12-08-2011, 01:35 PM.
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner
    SDC Member Since 1967

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    • #3
      ALL R2 and R3 Stude engines had 4bbl carbs.
      The R3's had an air box style , and the R2 had a top hat blow through style.
      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

      Jeff


      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



      Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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      • #4
        StudeRich, I didn't ask about all R engines, I qualified them as "blown". The question was also directed to the blown 289's of '57 & '58. So you're saying that all R/2's and R/3's utilized the 4bbl., and that was an AFB. Now those non-blown '63 & '64, 259's & 289's, that had the optional AFB's, did they carry an increased H/P rating? Thanks, Dan

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        • #5
          No they under-rated or did not even re-rate the '63-'64's with larger AFB Carbed 289 Engines, still 225 HP and 305 Ft. Lbs. Torque, which I know is lower than actual.

          They were clearly people in high places at Studebaker (not all thank goodness) who did not want to promote power and speed, it's DANGEROUS don't you know! Might lead to lawsuits.
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner
          SDC Member Since 1967

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          • #6
            Sounds just like the SDC higher ups today

            Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
            <snip>
            They were clearly people in high places at Studebaker (not all thank goodness) who did not want to promote power and speed, it's DANGEROUS don't you know! Might lead to lawsuits.
            HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

            Jeff


            Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



            Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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            • #7
              DeepNHock, wast the "air box" a new design or is that what the '57 & '58's used? Thanks, Dan

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              • #8
                The air box was completely different from the '57-'58 version.
                Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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                • #9
                  R3 airbox:


                  1957-58 airbox:


                  And yes, the 57-58 was for a 2bbl carb

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                  • #10
                    pdrnec, thanks for the response and the great pics! Dan

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                    • #11
                      StudeRich, so if the '63 - '64 engine, be it 259 or 289, had the larger secondary AFB, it would seem the intake manifold would change as well, correct? Is so then, I guess any 259 or 289 could be upgraded to an AFB with a carb and manifold change. Would that seem correct? Thanks, Dan

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                      • #12
                        A Studebaker V8 equipped with a WCFB carb had a 4bbl cast iron intake with 4 equal sized holes (primary and secondary)
                        The latest (last) cast iron 4bbl intake made for the AFB carb had enlarged secondary throttle bore holes.

                        Any Stude V8 (WCFB or AFB) could use the latest cast iron AFB intake, but they are getting harder to find.
                        An earlier WCFB intake can be made to work with an AFB one of three ways.
                        (1) Add a real thick AFB carb mount gasket (like the Moroso or Edelbrock heat insulator gasket.
                        (But this raises the carb and can cause hood clearance issues, but the intake 'step' hurts high RPM performance)
                        (2) Add a carb adapter plate.
                        (But this raises the carb and can cause hood clearance issues)
                        (3) Machine open, or grind open, the secondary throttle bores.
                        (The preferred method)

                        Hundreds of Stude's have had this swap done.
                        Just pick out a small AFB if you are street driving.
                        I suggest an electric choke, for ease of use.
                        There are some other tricks that you can do, and there are several here
                        that can help you with a replacement 4bbl AFB ready intake.
                        HTIH
                        Jeff


                        Originally posted by CarCrosswordDan View Post
                        StudeRich, so if the '63 - '64 engine, be it 259 or 289, had the larger secondary AFB, it would seem the intake manifold would change as well, correct? Is so then, I guess any 259 or 289 could be upgraded to an AFB with a carb and manifold change. Would that seem correct? Thanks, Dan
                        Last edited by DEEPNHOCK; 12-12-2011, 09:31 AM.
                        HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                        Jeff


                        Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



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