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    I know these springs have been touted widely on this NG. But just wanted to say, since they worked out so well in our GT Hawk, I decided to install set in our 56J. Did the install today, and after a short test drive, they work equally well in a 56J. If anything, this 56J is a little heavier in the front than most, since it has power steering AC, yet it sets near identicle to the GT. Of course I installed a 3/16" spacer in the drivers' side, per standard Stude proceedure to compensate for the weight difference.

    Whoever originally researched these springs for V8 Studes really did their homework, and I am very grateful.

  • #2
    Originally posted by JoeHall View Post
    I know these springs have been touted widely on this NG. But just wanted to say, since they worked out so well in our GT Hawk, I decided to install set in our 56J. Did the install today, and after a short test drive, they work equally well in a 56J. If anything, this 56J is a little heavier in the front than most, since it has power steering AC, yet it sets near identicle to the GT. Of course I installed a 3/16" spacer in the drivers' side, per standard Stude proceedure to compensate for the weight difference.

    Whoever originally researched these springs for V8 Studes really did their homework, and I am very grateful.
    That would be Jim Pepper, Joe, AFAIK. I'm not sure where he got the idea or information, but he first exposed the application through The Co-Operator maybe a year ago.

    BTW, you do know I have your dry, stripped GT Hawk door here from Bob Peterson, right?

    Are you going to come up to the SDC Indy Chapter Christmas Party December 17th? If you are, let me know and I'll bring the door. The door is not at all in the way, though, so "no problem" if it sits here until next year. (With no trim panel on it, I figure it will give the mice a nice place to build their winter nest and keep them away from my cars.) JUST KIDDING. BP
    We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

    G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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    • #3
      Just moved the 52 over to storage for the winter, moved the Avanti to the "workshop" side of the garage. The front end will be completely gone through this winter, including the Moog springs.


      Jim
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      • #4
        I have not been following this topic.
        Do the Moog # CC655 lower the front of Hawks??
        Brian
        Brian Woods
        woodysrods@shaw.ca
        1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
          That would be Jim Pepper, Joe, AFAIK. I'm not sure where he got the idea or information, but he first exposed the application through The Co-Operator maybe a year ago.

          BTW, you do know I have your dry, stripped GT Hawk door here from Bob Peterson, right?

          Are you going to come up to the SDC Indy Chapter Christmas Party December 17th? If you are, let me know and I'll bring the door. The door is not at all in the way, though, so "no problem" if it sits here until next year. (With no trim panel on it, I figure it will give the mice a nice place to build their winter nest and keep them away from my cars.) JUST KIDDING. BP
          Thanks Bob, I am gonna put the Indy Christmas Party on the list, depending on the weather. It's about 300 miles round trip, and that's just too far (boring)to drive a brand X. So, if it looks like Stude weather I am gonna try real hard to make it. Will let you know when it gets a little closer and the weather forecast is in sight. Where, exactly is it in Indy?
          Thanks,
          Joe P.S. I really appreciate you holding on to the door for me.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by woodysrods View Post
            I have not been following this topic.
            Do the Moog # CC655 lower the front of Hawks??
            Brian
            Brian,
            All I can say is, after way over 500 miles now and settled in, the front end of the GTsets about 26.5" from lower edge of the front fender to the ground, measured at a point where the tape intersects the front axle. To me, 26-27 inches have always seemed optimal, but that's just personal preference. If you use that as a reference point, it may be helpful indetermining if they would work for you, as far as height is concerned.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JoeHall View Post
              Thanks Bob, I am gonna put the Indy Christmas Party on the list, depending on the weather. It's about 300 miles round trip, and that's just too far (boring)to drive a brand X. So, if it looks like Stude weather I am gonna try real hard to make it. Will let you know when it gets a little closer and the weather forecast is in sight. Where, exactly is it in Indy?
              Thanks,
              Joe P.S. I really appreciate you holding on to the door for me.
              Joe:

              Here's all the info you need. You can Google or MapQuest the address for Murphy's Steak House.

              Let me know if you'll be there. Even notice early that Saturday morning is fine; I'd still be able to load your door before I head out. I'd like to know by 10 AM, please. BP

              Just a reminder. Our Christmas Dinner will be held on Saturday December 17 at 1 PM. at Murphy's Steak House, 4189 North Keystone Ave., Indpls., IN. We need at least 25 to attend in order for Murphys to open for us. Please RSVP to Berniece Snider at 317-889-3802 or email msnider04@aol.com, by December 12.
              We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

              G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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              • #8
                Thanks Bob,
                I should be able to RSVP 3-4 days out, as soon as I can get a little confidence in the weather forecast

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JoeHall View Post
                  Brian,
                  All I can say is, after way over 500 miles now and settled in, the front end of the GTsets about 26.5" from lower edge of the front fender to the ground, measured at a point where the tape intersects the front axle. To me, 26-27 inches have always seemed optimal
                  Wait just a darn minute there Joe, are you sure? 26 to 27 inches from the BOTTOM of the fender to the ground? Mine measure right at 10 inches right behind the front wheelwell.

                  Wouldn't that be about the same as a 4X4 Monster Truck?
                  You can't be serious, does that look stock to you?
                  Last edited by StudeRich; 12-06-2011, 04:02 PM.
                  StudeRich
                  Second Generation Stude Driver,
                  Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                  SDC Member Since 1967

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                  • #10
                    Just ran out to the shop and measured my 56 Hawk which is set at the ride height I hope to acheive.....and it is at 25 1/4" Fender opening to ground.
                    26 1/2" is too high for me.
                    Good Roads
                    Brian
                    Brian Woods
                    woodysrods@shaw.ca
                    1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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                    • #11
                      What tire sizes are Brian and Joe using for these measurements?

                      Gil
                      Gil Zimmerman
                      Riverside, CA

                      1955 Speedster
                      1956 Golden Hawk
                      1958 Packard Hawk
                      1958 President
                      1963 Avanti R2

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                        Wait just a darn minute there Joe, are you sure? 26 to 27 inches from the BOTTOM of the fender to the ground? Mine measure right at 10 inches right behind the front wheelwell.

                        Wouldn't that be about the same as a 4X4 Monster Truck?
                        You can't be serious, does that look stock to you?
                        Sorry to confuse you Rich, I meant from the bottom edge of the fender wheel well, if that's any clearer. If you start at the ground, go straight up, intersect the center of the front wheel/hubcap, and continue till you run into the lower edge of the fender wheel well, that is the point I referenced.

                        Gil, This measurement is with 205/75R-15 radials.

                        Hope this helps, and does not add to even more confusion. I 'm getting confused myself

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JoeHall View Post
                          Sorry to confuse you Rich, I meant from the bottom edge of the fender wheel well, if that's any clearer. If you start at the ground, go straight up, intersect the center of the front wheel/hubcap, and continue till you run into the lower edge of the fender wheel well, that is the point I referenced.

                          Gil, This measurement is with 205/75R-15 radials.

                          Hope this helps, and does not add to even more confusion. I 'm getting confused myself
                          What front springs are you using?
                          Brian
                          Brian Woods
                          woodysrods@shaw.ca
                          1946 M Series (Shop Truck)

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