Engine: Springs & Lifters

[woodysrods]

Another engine rebuild question????
Today I bought a R1 - R2 regroud camshaft.
I was told that I would need Avanti springs as opposed to Stock 289 springs???
I have a new set of lifters for stock motor.
What can you experienced builders tell me.
What do I need for best results and am I going in the right direction?
This is not a racing motor.....we just want a smooth running, reliable motor for touring long distances.
Good Roads
Brian

[DEEPNHOCK]

New lifters should be a mandatory, and a no brainer item, with a reground cam.
Used valve springs are used valve springs.
If they checked out OK as far as spring pressure with the proper tool...maybe.
But 99% of the Stude crowd doesn't have a clue as to how to check this anyways.
My suggestion is to just buy a new set of springs from Fairborne Studebaker and be done with it.
Anything less is just abusing your cam and lifter investment.
(IMOHO - HTIH)
Jeff

Another engine rebuild question????
Today I bought a R1 - R2 regroud camshaft.
I was told that I would need Avanti springs as opposed to Stock 289 springs???
I have a new set of lifters for stock motor.
What can you experienced builders tell me.
What do I need for best results and am I going in the right direction?
This is not a racing motor.....we just want a smooth running, reliable motor for touring long distances.
Good Roads
Brian

[MCCAB1]

I must be in the 1% becaue I have always checked installed height and used my valve spring tester to see what the closed pressure and open pressure are. Also to check for coil bind. I would never use used valve springs without checking them first! If you know someone that is a pretty serious racer they would probably check your springs for you as they will have a valve spring pressure tester. You would just need to take them a retainer or measure the thickness of yours and check the installed height on your heads. But like Jeff said I have bought R1 valve spring sets from Phil at Fairborne Studebaker. Good insurance and reliable performance from new valve springs.

[woodysrods]

I do plan to use new valve springs, as everything else in the motor is new.
I just need to know which springs to order???
Brian

[Mike Van Veghten]

Um...no matter who you buy or where you buy springs from...it's ALWAYS a good idea to check/have them checked before you install them onto the heads.
I can't tell you how many times I've bought a fresh set of springs only to have two or three needing to be swapped for another because even with shims, the shim stack would be unacceptable (to me) to make all the springs have the same load on all of the valves.

Otherwise....while crusing down a deserted stretch of freeway and you give the throttle a good hard push...only to have the engine stop accelerating at 5000 rpm or worse yet, one spring being much weaker than the rest start banging away and you get the crap scared ouy of you...!
OR...you are getting on the freeway and have the same thing happen.
Even Yugos can rev. past 5000 rpm...! I know, a friend had one a very long time ago..!

And as Jeff states...I thought new lifters on a new cam was known by most all playing with (flat tappet) engines/cars.

Mike

P.s. - make it easy on yourself...Again, as Jeff states...just go to Phil at Fairborn Studebaker

[41 Frank]

Most any Studebaker vendor will have the R-1-R-2 valve springs. The difference in price between them and regular 289 valve springs is minimal.

[woodysrods]

Okay!
Part #'s Please!!!
Brian

[DEEPNHOCK]

(Marketing 201... Linecard and Advertising)

No slight intended against any of the many great Stude parts vendors that sell valve springs, lifters, or widgets to fit Stude engines..
Jeff

Most any Studebaker vendor will have the R-1-R-2 valve springs. The difference in price between them and regular 289 valve springs is minimal.

[woodysrods]

Just looked at the invoice that came with my engine parts order.
New Valve Springs VLV222
New Lifters VLV302
Make any sense to anyone?
or are these just a suppliers own inventory #?
Brian

[(S)]

order up 2 sets of commander 6 springs. Place them between a drill press and a scale. keep the ones that are closest to the same number (in pounds) when you compress them. Then procede to installation and measured height.... sell the rest. wink

[41 Frank]

Those are the suppliers own assigned part numbers.

Just looked at the invoice that came with my engine parts order.
New Valve Springs VLV222
New Lifters VLV302
Make any sense to anyone?
or are these just a suppliers own inventory #?
Brian

[41 Frank]

Those are the supplier's own assigned part numbers

order up 2 sets of commander 6 springs. Place them between a drill press and a scale. keep the ones that are closest to the same number (in pounds) when you compress them. Then procede to installation and measured height.... sell the rest. wink

[woodysrods]

Figures as much. With more research I have found these #'s Stock springs (I have) #533245 and Avanti Springs #188645
Does anyone recognize these numbers?
Are they right for my project?
Brian

[41 Frank]

Yes those numbers are for the applications you mention. #188645 can be used in place of #533245 but not the other way around.

Figures as much. With more research I have found these #'s Stock springs (I have) #533245 and Avanti Springs #188645
Does anyone recognize these numbers?
Are they right for my project?
Brian

[woodysrods]

Thanks Guys
Correct springs are ordered.
Brian