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    I bought a seal kit from S.I. The copper washer for the end cap does not fit into the recess at the end of the body.
    I called S. I. and was told there are different units, that they buy the kits made up, and to try finding a copper washer at a local brake shop. No luck finding one so far. There was a rubber o-ring or flat washer in the hill holder upon taking it apart,[no copper washer] is this a correct piece ?
    I was told I needed natural rubber not Buna-n for a brake system. Where can I get natural rubber o-rings ?
    South Lompoc Studebaker

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    Buna-N will fall apart. Natural Rubber orings are somewhat hard to come by. For brake fluid, you would want EPR/EPDM. I work for an oring/hydraulic shop and we get people trying to put Buna orings in brake systems all the time... including 18-wheelers. What is the size of the oring? Maybe I can send a "sample" to you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 55 56 PREZ 4D View Post
      I bought a seal kit from S.I. The copper washer for the end cap does not fit into the recess at the end of the body.
      I called S. I. and was told there are different units, that they buy the kits made up, and to try finding a copper washer at a local brake shop. No luck finding one so far. There was a rubber o-ring or flat washer in the hill holder upon taking it apart,[no copper washer] is this a correct piece ?
      I was told I needed natural rubber not Buna-n for a brake system. Where can I get natural rubber o-rings ?
      Been there done that!!!

      Ended up buying & tearing down a bunch of well used Hill Holder (NoRol) valves. All had the non-cooper type end cap gasket. Is your original gasket in good enough shape to try re-using it??

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      • #4
        Welcome: Yes it does look like the existing gasket will be good enough to use again, That may be the way I will have to go.

        Cultural Infidel: Thank You. The existing gasket is 1 1/8" I.D., 1 13/32" O.D., and where it's flattened, just under 1/16".
        So it looks like a #-122 o-ring would fit.[1 1/8" I.D., 1 5/16" O.D., 3/32 C.S.]

        Thanks for the information and the offer
        Dan
        South Lompoc Studebaker

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 55 56 PREZ 4D View Post
          Welcome: Yes it does look like the existing gasket will be good enough to use again, That may be the way I will have to go. >>>Thanks for the information and the offer
          Dan
          If you decide to re-use, I'd suggest doing a pressure test of the HillHolder/NoRol valve assembly after rebuild but BEFORE reinstalling to the frame. I tested mine about 36 hours under constant pressure before I felt confident enough there would be no leaks/seeps/weeps.

          PM if you want to know how I set that test up.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 55 56 PREZ 4D View Post
            Welcome: Yes it does look like the existing gasket will be good enough to use again, That may be the way I will have to go.

            Cultural Infidel: Thank You. The existing gasket is 1 1/8" I.D., 1 13/32" O.D., and where it's flattened, just under 1/16".
            So it looks like a #-122 o-ring would fit.[1 1/8" I.D., 1 5/16" O.D., 3/32 C.S.]

            Thanks for the information and the offer
            Dan
            Happy to help!

            I have plenty of -122 EPR o-rings on the shelf. PM me your address and I will shoot a "sample" or 2 your way!

            Sean

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