Were the car and pickup bellhousing bolt pattern the same for a 3 speed w/od transmission?
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1958 Transtar 3E6-122
1958 Transtar 3E13-31
1959 Transtar 4E7-122
1959 Lark 2 door Wagon
1960 Transtar 5E28-171
1960 Lark Gasser
1963 Daytona -
I can only speak about early models (1951 - 1956). The bolt pattern for the transmission and engine are the same, but the bellhousings themselves are different. The 55 259 that I have, with truck bellhousing and 3-speed transmission from a 1955 pickup have the same pattern on both ends as the pattern on the 1951 commander passenger car bellhousing. That's all I know about, newer models may be different. -
Of the same year, yes, the transmission bolt patterns were the same for car and truck. That doesn't mean they'll interchange, even though the bolt pattern is the same. For instance, the '57-58 GH with the T85 uses a long tailshaft transmission. The V8 pickups with the T85 use a short tailshaft transmission.
jack vinesPackardV8Comment
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No '59-'66 cars are going to have the H.D. T-85 3 speed O.D. Trans. like the Truck T-89, so the Standard '58 & on T-86E 3 speed O.D. Trans. bolt pattern will not match.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967Comment
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Rich is never wrong, so I'm going to check mine again,but last I looked, all my post-'57 T86s have the same bolt pattern as my T85s and T10s (yes, except the '61 T10).No '59-'66 cars are going to have the H.D. T-85 3 speed O.D. Trans. like the Truck T-89, so the Standard '58 & on T-86E 3 speed O.D. Trans. bolt pattern will not match.
jack vinesPackardV8Comment
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Jack, make that ALMOST never! Go ahead and measure!
StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967Comment
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Some T-86's must have been used in later V8 cars as I recall pulling one out of a 63 4 dr sdn many years ago (259 engine). It was an original low mile car at the time - just rusted out.Mark Hayden
'66 CommanderComment
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Some T-86's must have been used in later V8 cars as I recall pulling one out of a 63 4 dr sdn many years ago (259 engine)Yes, and Rich agrees. What he was trying to say is all the '59-66 V8 3-spds were T86s. None of them came with T85s.No '59-'66 cars are going to have the H.D. T-85 3 speed O.D. Trans. like the Truck T-89, so the Standard '58 & on T-86E 3 speed O.D. Trans. bolt pattern will not match.
jack vinesPackardV8Comment
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Wasn't there also a T-90 used in some early V-8 pickups?Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Eastern North Carolina ChapterComment
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