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    My '62 Champ's steering has gotten to the point of being dangerous. Where I live, there's a whole new meaning to that too!
    I don't have the shop manuals for this one and would like to know how to adjust the toe and camber. The wheels are cambered and toed out so badly that it's causing problems.


    Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
    Lotsa Larks!
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    Ron Smith
    Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
    Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
    K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
    Ron Smith
    Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

  • #2
    Well, you all are going to have to forgive my ignorance of terms. I got under the old fellow and started monkeying around. Looks like the bar that links the two front wheels together was bent... badly. So I used a winch and jack and bent it straighter. Then I loosened the clamps at each end and adjusted the toe out to a slight toe in. Then I tightened hub nuts. The right side was quite loose.

    Ed is doing much better now. the steering is still a bit dicey, but much more acceptable. Anyone else have any ideas? There's obviously something I've missed.


    Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
    Lotsa Larks!
    K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
    Ron Smith
    Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
    Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
    K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
    Ron Smith
    Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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    • #3
      Clunk,
      I'll send you an e-mail shortly, I have scanned the 3 pages from the Stude Truck shop manual that deal with front end alignment.

      Mark
      Mark Hayden
      '66 Commander
      Zone Coordinator
      Pacific Can-Am Zone

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      • #4
        thanks Mark. This has been a problem with this truck for some time. Just a case of many years of no maintenance, I guess.


        Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
        Lotsa Larks!
        K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
        Ron Smith
        Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
        Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
        K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
        Ron Smith
        Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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        • #5
          Excellent, glad I could help.

          Mark
          Mark Hayden
          '66 Commander
          Zone Coordinator
          Pacific Can-Am Zone

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          • #6
            I'm not sure these pages should be placed here. They're pretty big. Thanks for sending them, Mike.

            Here's the first page as a test:



            Okay, the preview came out all right. Let's see what it looks like posted. I'll have to remnove my sig line to make this easier to load...

            Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
            K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
            Ron Smith
            Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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            • #7
              Page two:
              Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
              K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
              Ron Smith
              Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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              • #8
                page three:
                Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                Ron Smith
                Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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                • #9
                  Not much point in doing a wheel alignment if you have worn steering and/or suspension components. Fix those first if needed.
                  Then don't overlook the rear axle. If it's not reasonably square to the chassis, you end up with "crabbing", the result of which is that you are permanently compensating by turning the steering wheel a bit.
                  /H

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                  • #10
                    Ron, considering the 'E' ticket ride you and Ed went on, I'd start at the base. Somewhere in the manual should be the frame specs/demensions. I'd make sure the frame is straight. All you should need is a tape measure and an extra set of hands to hold one end. Measure side to side and make sure the measurements from both sides are equal. You can rebuild the entire truck, but if the frame isn't square, the rest of the truck won't be either.

                    If the drag links are bent, replace them. Once bent, there is no way to straighten these the way they should be. I'd hate to here from someone else that you took another ride down a hill again .

                    I'd suggest doing the same with the wagon. It may have been an optical allusion, but the rear suspension looked like it shifted to the right side.



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                    Tom - Valrico, FL

                    1964 Studebaker Daytona

                    Tom - Bradenton, FL

                    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
                    1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Tom. I'll look into that. The front suspension on the truck has shifted once before. I fixed it and didn't do any measurements. Perhaps that's what the problem is now. After re-bending the 'drag link' I've found the steering to be much improved. I have another Champ here and will see about switching parts.

                      This measurement you are speaking about, is it from front hub to rear? Are you talking about measuring the frame?

                      By the by; the instability is nearly gone now. There's only a tendency to over-steer to the right remaining.



                      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                      Lotsa Larks!
                      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                      Ron Smith
                      Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
                      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
                      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
                      Ron Smith
                      Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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