1964 Bordeaux Rec paint code

[SuperHawk]

I'm getting ready to paint an engine compartment, and when I call around to local paint suppliers, I ask if they can mix a '64 Stude color. All of them ask for a paint code. Paint code or we don't even want to talk to you.

OK, so if I want paint, I've got to play their game. So does anyone have a code for Bordeaux Red, or know where I can obtain such?

Thanks,
Larry

[valleyguy]

Try this
http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorli...baker-pg02.jpg

Joe D.

[StudeRich]

Any GOOD Auto Body Paint and supply Store should know that the Studebaker Paint Name, Studebaker Paint Code, Paint Mfg's number etc. etc. for leaded single stage Baking Enamel of the 1964 era, are going to be useless with a Modern state of the art Base/Clearcoat acrylic finish system! Also the original Color chips on PAPER, mixing formulas etc.

PPG and Dupont do have conversion formulas that can come close, but a color matched "Sample" is still best.
If you want useless numbers, here you go: Rinshed-Mason (RM) #64S51R and Stude. P-6418

[sweetolbob]

Any GOOD Auto Body Paint and supply Store should know that the Studebaker Paint Name, Studebaker Paint Code, Paint Mfg's number etc. etc. for leaded single stage Baking Enamel of the 1964 era, are going to be useless with a Modern state of the art Base/Clearcoat acrylic finish system! Also the original Color chips on PAPER, mixing formulas etc.

PPG and Dupont do have conversion formulas that can come close, but a color matched "Sample" is still best.
If you want useless numbers, here you go: Rinshed-Mason (RM) #64S51R and Stude. P-6418

To carry on StudeRich's thought, most any good paint supplier has a scope that will give an excellent color match if you can find a non-faded part on the car. My Avanti was painted with base coat/clear coat some time in it's past with no reference to what was used. When to the local paint guys and the match was perfect including the metal size and distribution. I only painted the trunk lid and you can't tell which part was painted.

Bob

[Paul Keller]

My DuPont auto paint dealer was able to obtain the correct formula from the Stude' paint name, as stated above. Try another shop.
Paul K

[gthawkr2]

I used urethane paint from Dupont

DUP IBD01

[52 Ragtop]

1964 Bordeaux Red Studebaker paint code P-6418 Ditzler number 71418, R-M number 64S51R, DuPont number 8017-L

Hope this helps

jim

[Sam Ensley]

I am going in the opposite direction. My 64 Daytona is painted bordeaux red, but the original color was cream. The build order calls for cream, but the1964 cream is more white. I like the old Studebaker color: tulip cream. I asked one of the Shrock Brothers about the "tulip cream" on their boat-tail roadster, and he said it was, I believe, a 1984 Ford color. Anyway, that is the color I want. Anybody have any suggestions?

[StudeRich]

There were no Cream or even close '64 Daytonas. The '64 White is Astra White, a very slightly Grey/White Color.

The '63 Ermine White is an off-White, slightly to the Yellow side, maybe that is what you want even though incorrect. But no Whites are Yellow, like the Tulip Cream.

[Jim B PEI]

Sam E,
One helpful site is of course, http://www.raylinrestoration.com/ Well, extremely helpful to me as they have posted no less than FOUR different whites that I need--64 Astra, 64 wheel white, 61-63 Ermine and 62-63 wheel white, as well as 57 Turquoise and 57 Glendale. Green.

Of course, what you might want is something like the 84 Ford colour 3051 Antique Cream as on here: http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorli...-ford-pg06.jpg

[skyway]

Talking DuPont Centari here.

18 years ago, when I changed my '64 Cruiser from Bermuda Brown to Bord. Red, the recipe was a fleet color used on England Trucking's (remember when all of their cabs were dark red?) road tractors.

About 6 years ago, when I bought a pint to reshoot a rear fender, it had become a Ford color. I have that can at home and I can post the details tonite or tomorrow.

[Sam Ensley]

Thanks, Jim B
I believe the Ford color is the one I want. I'm not bound to correctness. I don't intend to sell the car, and I hope my grandson never does.

[BRUCESTUDE]

I bought a gallon of Bordeaux Red last month in the Sherwin-Williams line, the # I used was P6418. It is a base coat formula.

[skyway]

Centari Code for Bord. Red.

Found my 2 old paint cans. Same code on each, "97095A H". Later (approx. 6 years old) can is marked "FORD USA."

Hope this helps.

[StudeRich]

Sherwin Williams Auto Paint

I bought a gallon of Bordeaux Red last month in the Sherwin-Williams line, the # I used was P6418. It is a base coat formula.

What are you saying Bruce? You mean they were able to cross that over somehow to their colors and numbers using that Studebaker number. For a "house paint store" that somehow does not sound right! I know they now do make some Automotive Enamels (finishes) but aren't they only sold Wholesale, but not in the "House Paint, Carpet and Linoleum Stores"?