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  • R1 Fuel Pump / Power Steering Pump Clash!

    When I tried to install my new R1 fuel pump on my '64 convertible, I discovered that it has a bump on the top which hits the underside of the power steering pump, preventing me from installing it! It was suggested that I file down this same bump, but I am loathe to do this if there is some other way to solve the problem. Has anybody ever had this problem?

  • #2
    Hi,

    Is your power steering pump mounted on an adjustable bracket? My R-1 Avanti's pump can be moved around some to accomodate its neighbors and tighten or loosen the belt.

    Tom

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    • #3
      Check to see if your P/S Pump is mounted correctly with the factory correct deep built-in wrench hex, spacing studs and washers.
      StudeRich
      Second Generation Stude Driver,
      Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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      • #4
        It's mounted correctly, and I also checked to see that the fan belt was the correct one. According to Jon Myer, this is a problem that occurs with some cars and not with others; I was just hoping somebody had gone through it and come up with a solution that didn't involve defacing the fuel pump.

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        • #5
          How much is in the way?

          If the P/S really won't move any more, You can machine the mounting surface or try another pump.

          I have heard of this but never seen it up close. Just be sure they do not touch when you are done.....

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          • #6
            Well, I would guess I need about half an inch. If I file or machine either the top of the fuel pump or the bottom of the power steering pump, will I not weaken them or risk causing a leak? This is what I fear. Perhaps I should look for an original R1 fuel pump and rebuild it; apparently it did not have this damned bump on the top!

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            • #7
              A half inch is too much to take off. I'd try another pump, grind on yours or rebuild the original. Kits are 60 and up depending where you shop.

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              • #8
                Where did you purchase the pump? I would think that the seller would offer a refund on a pump that doesn't come close to fitting the application. No way would I be looking at removing a half inch from either accessory. I have trouble understanding the comment that it's a problem on some cars but not others. A half inch is a LOT of interference.

                I'd look for another vendor if you must stay with the R-1 pump. Personally, I would note that block-off plates are cheap, and electric pumps work great. That's the route I took on my '64 Daytona.
                Jim Bradley
                Lake Monticello, VA
                '78 Avanti II
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                • #9
                  The pump came from Myer's. The whole idea of disfiguring a part just to make it fit is repugnant to me to begin with.

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                  • #10
                    Select a slightly different length of belt that allows the p/s unit to move away from the fuel pump. You may have to install the belt on the p/s pump pulley before you mount the p/s pump on the engine. I've run into this problem and that is one way around it. The p/s pump will appear tilted in slightly but that is not a problem.

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                    • #11
                      My vote is the wrong belt length too, something is amiss.
                      JDP Maryland

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the suggestions. I checked and the belt is supposedly the correct no. and size (37 1/2 inches i.d.). It is certainly worth trying your suggestion of a larger belt before resorting to more extraordinary measures. Meanwhile, I plan to have a certified Studebaker mechanic (I'm not kidding either -- Cockrell-Owens Studebaker, Towson, Md.) check the situation out just in case I have missed something obvious. I appreciate everybody's ideas.

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                        • #13
                          I just finally took a look at the R-1 crate engine I have & see what you mean. Mine still has the original Studebaker belt adjusted by our South Bend employees. The adjustment bolt on the pump is set about a third up from the bottom of the bracket & perhaps an eigth of an inch clearance to the fuel pump. Your problem should be handled with just a slightly longer belt unless you have a replacement fuel pump that is much larger than the original R-1 pump. I can take a picture of mine if you wish with my phone & have the wife attach it to an e-mail to you (she knows that stuff-not me!)
                          59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
                          60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
                          61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
                          62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
                          62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
                          62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
                          63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
                          63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
                          64 Zip Van
                          66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
                          66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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                          • #14
                            I used the Carter Chrysler small block fuel pump with power steering on mine, and it clears fine.(If that is an help).
                            Bez Auto Alchemy
                            573-318-8948
                            http://bezautoalchemy.com


                            "Don't believe every internet quote" Abe Lincoln

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                            • #15
                              I would be very grateful if you would send me a picture of an original R1 pump so that I can compare it to this newer version (which, I assume, is much alike). (I would also love to see a picture of that R1 engine!) My e-mail address is studejack@comcast.net. My car is an original factory 4-speed convertible, but a previous owner installed a Jet Thrust engine in place of the original 289; I am restoring it as an R1 since it is too late for "matching numbers." (Oh, and because for some reason my distress in not having the original, matching-numbers engine for the car seems to disappear from my mind when I am passing other cars on the highway.)

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