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  • Another planar suspension question (several pictures, but small)

    The lower control arms on my 41 Champion are bent up to the point where I am not sure what shape they are supposed to be. Anyone with a similar suspension know what these SHOULD look like? My BFH is ready to go but I don't want to take out bends that are supposed to be there. If you want to see bigger pictures there are links here:
    http://stude.vonadatech.com/SteeringRepairs.htm.
    .

    Thanks,
    Nathan
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    https://jeepster.vonadatech.com

  • #2
    Since no one else has jumped in, I'll take a shot. If I am wrong, someone please correct me.

    On that suspension, those bars are not so much control arms, as links. I think the parts book may even agree, calling the upper arms "conrol arms" and the things we are talking about "links".

    Anyway, the real "lower control" on that suspension is provided by the main spring leaf, and the primary purpose of the links is to take all the punishment you have described in your attachment, and also to keep the wheel sorta in place if you were ever unlucky enough to break the main leaf.

    I know that you'd like the links to look better, but functionallly the main concern (even dented and banged up) is, do they allow the suspension to travel as it should. Another functional concern is keeping that spring pack well lubricated. If Champions originally had that spring lubed, then wrapped in burlap inside a jointed a tin cover like the Comm/Presidents did, you might consider redoing that too.

    Hope this helps.

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    • #3
      PS, If you are thinking looking for replacements (especially that wallowed out one), I'd (mostly alphabetically) try Don Gay in Lowpoint, IL, Bob Kaplyn(spelling) in Chicago, Rex Miltenberger in Niles, MI, Studebaker International, or the gentleman (who's name escapes me) in Tuscon with the big Transtar truck.

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      • #4
        Bob Kapteyn, studebaker@mac.com
        Rex, studerex@aol.com
        SIA, info@studebaker-intl.com
        Big truck guy, Chuck Naugle
        Don Gay, See TW's for his ad.

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        • #5
          Thank you Richard.

          Also, parts-wise, and last but never least, Bob Peterson from Castro Valley CA, who posts here as Candbstudebakers.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the replies! I did find a picture in the manual so I know for sure now they were supposed to be dead straight. The good news is that they are very mild steel. I was able to work out the worst of the twists and kinks with a vice and some blocks of wood. As soon as I find something hard that fits in the channel of the link I will work them until the mounting points are at least in line with each other. The shoulder bolts they mount to were pretty chewed up but I found new ones. I think it will be OK.


            Lubing the springs is part of my annual maintenance. Before I got the engine sealed up that used to take care of the front spring for me .

            I was able to get almost everything from SI. I need 1 shock yet and I might still replace the lower link/arm/whatever if I can find them. I will check with the others. The machine shop is backed up so my spindles will not be done until next week anyway.

            Thanks again!
            Nathan
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            http://stude.vonadatech.com
            https://jeepster.vonadatech.com

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            • #7
              Those links weren't even put on 1940 Commanders and Presidents. They left them off for one year then put them on again in 1941. There must have been a reason they went back to using them?
              28 dictator
              40 commander

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              • #8
                re Chuck Naugle

                Richard, a different subject but I could use your help.
                I am trying to get information on my recently puirchased 1964 Daytona convertible. I have an Arizona Highway Department certificate of title that shows registration issued to Charles Naugle, Tucson, , July 9, 1970. The car has a R-1 engine which was not the original but I am told by the buyer Mr Naugle sold it to in the early 1990's that it was in the car when Mr. Naugle purchased it. I am trying to find out how that engine ended up in the convertible , when and why, etc.

                Any help you could give me in contacting Chuck and solving this mystery would be greatly appreciated.

                Tks,
                Barry
                Barry Leppan
                Ontario, Canada
                64 Daytona R-1 Convertible & 64 GT Hawk R-1
                GT Hawk Registry & SDC, Hamilton Chapter [IMG]

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                • #9
                  As of last night my Studebaker is a car again. New bushings, a tie rod end, kingpins, upper pins, lower pins, front shocks, a re-routed fuel line, a small basket of cash, 10 trips to the hardware store, and two weeks of evenings and weekends are all it took. I got these links mostly straight which is much better than they were!

                  The fun is all documented here:
                  http://stude.vonadatech.com/2010FrontSuspension.htm

                  Much thanks to those that offered help and suggestions.

                  Nathan

                  Tomorrow we go to the alignment shop.
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                  • #10
                    Always nice to see the end of a thread and know how things worked out.
                    "In the heart of Arkansas."
                    Searcy, Arkansas
                    1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
                    1952 2R pickup

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 52-fan View Post
                      Always nice to see the end of a thread and know how things worked out.
                      To heck you say! It is the beginning for me as I need to go through the same exercise with my '48 front suspension. I have a feeling I will be consulting this thread and information provided frequently.
                      John Clary
                      Greer, SC

                      SDC member since 1975

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                      • #12
                        It is worth it! I got the car aligned yesterday. The tech ended up removing most of the shims due to a ridiculous amount of positive camber from the last alignment (circa 1950!). Everything is within specs now and the car drives nice. The most amazing part is how many of the squeaks and rattles were from that front suspension. Now the windows rattling seem 10 times louder than they did before and my minor exhaust leak is driving me nuts. More fun for later.

                        Nathan
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                        http://stude.vonadatech.com
                        https://jeepster.vonadatech.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nvonada View Post
                          It is worth it! I got the car aligned yesterday. The tech ended up removing most of the shims due to a ridiculous amount of positive camber from the last alignment (circa 1950!). Everything is within specs now and the car drives nice. The most amazing part is how many of the squeaks and rattles were from that front suspension. Now the windows rattling seem 10 times louder than they did before and my minor exhaust leak is driving me nuts. More fun for later.

                          Nathan
                          I have started gathering parts. I am a long way from being ready to begin the project.

                          I would like to thank you for the excellent chronicling of the process. Be prepaired for a little pestering when I finally get around to my own project.
                          John Clary
                          Greer, SC

                          SDC member since 1975

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