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Disk Brake 63 Hawk-rims really different?

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  • Disk Brake 63 Hawk-rims really different?

    I read in a past thread that the the wheel rims are different , front to back on
    a disk brake equipped Studebaker. My 63 Hawk owners manual shows a tire swap front to back and makes no mention of a difference. Also. I don't see any change in depth.
    What had been said, is that the front rims were more dished to accomodate the disk
    pads. I'd like to do a rotation but waited to clear this up first. My car has factory disk brakes.
    Thanks.
    ...Dick

    1950 Champion Starlight
    1963 Hawk GT
    Santa Barbara
    CA

    The 1950 Champion Starlight
    Santa Barbara
    CA

  • #2
    Yah .. the difference is between disc brake cars and non-disc brake
    cars. On a car with factory disc brakes all 4 will be disc brake
    wheels (unless someone changed them since). The disc brake wheels
    had more room inside to clear the caliper.

    In other words DONT try bolting your '50 Starlight wheels on the '63!

    Tom

    '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
    '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
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    • #3
      Ok...That explains it. Thank you both for clearing up my confusion.
      BTW , Tom, even someone as dumb as me would have trouble putting the four
      stud 50 rims on the five stud 63 Hawk. Have to cut one off and....
      ...Dick
      The 1950 Champion Starlight
      Santa Barbara
      CA

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      • #4
        The '50 only has 4 stud hubs??? I didnt know that! Sorry, my mistake.[:I]

        Tom
        '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
        Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
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        • #5
          Tom; Champions do have 4 lug, Commanders 5. In 1951 they wisely went to common wheels on all cars: 5 on 4 1/2" centers with 5 inch by 15" until 1957. 1958 and on is when things get a bit weird, with 14 in. in '58 except Scotsman and special orders, then 4 1/2 in.wide after that except Avanti which has 5 in. wide.

          Then for '63-'64 there's those (2) different brands: Kelsey-Hayes with the extra "hump" just outside of the hubcap hump, and the nicer looking Budd wheel used for Disc. One with a little more clearance and the (ugly,it figures, it's a GM division!) K/H with the most!

          StudeRich
          Studebakers Northwest
          Ferndale, WA
          StudeRich
          Second Generation Stude Driver,
          Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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          • #6
            Rich:

            Any reason why they choose to go to 14 inch wheels for 57 and 58? I wonder if it was an industry wide thing such as quad headlights for 58. Is that all models to include trucks?

            Kevin Edwards

            http://airlandandseaparts.com

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            • #7
              Kevin; you are right, it was just a fad/trend it was done to give the cars the long low profile, to go along with the new flat roof in '58. If you read my post again you will see it says '58 only. No, of course they would never try to mess with the look of the Trucks, Studebaker Truck Div. had $0 dollars to play with styling, they built the trucks to HAUL things in those days, not to look nice in the super market parking lot or to haul 10 LBS. of groceries! The 1/2 Tons came std. with 15 in. with 16 in. option and 3/4 tons had 16in. trucks need ground clearance for farm use etc. there is no reason to lower a real truck! [:0][^]

              StudeRich
              Studebakers Northwest
              Ferndale, WA
              StudeRich
              Second Generation Stude Driver,
              Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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              • #8
                It was 58 only for 14 in. wheels. The only reason I can think of is it made the cars look longer because thely sat lower to the ground. IMHO though, the wheels are out of proportion to the car. It looks like they are sitting on roller skates.

                Terry

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                • #9
                  I always thought the best part of the 14" wheels in 1958 was those GREAT looking full wheel covers (the ones that look kinda slotted). Those alone make it worth your while to run 14's if you can still find 14" radials big enough to look right.

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                  • #10
                    Sorry, there ARE no slotted looking '58 Wheelcovers! The only 14" ones they made were the Studebaker AC-2900 and the Packard that's it!

                    I think you thinking of the AC-2799 spoked looking (Golden Hawk) optional '57 wheelcover that was like all '57's- 15 inch. not 14 ". [:0]

                    StudeRich
                    Studebakers Northwest
                    Ferndale, WA
                    StudeRich
                    Second Generation Stude Driver,
                    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                    • #11
                      Don't know about no AC numbers, but I do know that I did intend to be praising plain ole, garden variety, 1958 Studebaker full wheel covers.

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