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  • It's busted big time.

    I think I broke the seat in my Cruiser[B)]. I have the split bench with the recliner mechanisms. Yesterday while I was trying to get my wallet out I leaned back on the seat and it clicked and fell back about 3 inches. Now, I can't get it to stay in the upright position. I mean, it's up and I can drive it, but it's kinda ghetto. I took the cover plate off the ratchet mechanisms, and boy, that looks complicated in there.[B)]

    Is there any kind of adjustment, or did a bolt slip. Or, did I do the thing in?[)][}][8]

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    Mark Anderson
    1965 Cruiser
    http://home.alltel.net/anderm


  • #2
    Mark; it depends on how bad the wear on the brass sliding gear is. As Mike said, that is what wears. However if you have not torn it apart yet, try this; you fold the seat forward beyond straight and move the adjustment lever all the way up and down and ease the seat back to straight, see if it stays, if not move the lever up & down until it does hold. Believe it or not, I have "fixed" many of them just that easy! With NO tools!

    Also NEVER, ever adjust the recliner with any weight against the seat!

    StudeRich
    Studebakers Northwest
    Ferndale, WA
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      I tried that and it didn't work. So, is the sliding gear the part that's probably bad? I notice Stude Intl has those.

      quote:Originally posted by StudeRich

      Mark; it depends on how bad the wear on the brass sliding gear is. As Mike said, that is what wears. However if you have not torn it apart yet, try this; you fold the seat forward beyond straight and move the adjustment lever all the way up and down and ease the seat back to straight, see if it stays, if not move the lever up & down until it does hold. Believe it or not, I have "fixed" many of them just that easy! With NO tools!

      Also NEVER, ever adjust the recliner with any weight against the seat!

      StudeRich
      Studebakers Northwest
      Ferndale, WA
      ________________________
      Mark Anderson
      1965 Cruiser
      http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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      • #4
        Mark, that is usually the problem. But as on any assembly, it is always better to disassemble to find out if more of those small; screws, bolts, washers, spring, flat plate, round gear etc. are bad so you are not waiting for 2 shipments of parts to finish it. Unless you just want to order all the parts for the left side, to use now or later.

        quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

        I tried that and it didn't work. So, is the sliding gear the part that's probably bad? I notice Stude Intl has those.
        StudeRich
        Studebakers Northwest
        Ferndale, WA
        StudeRich
        Second Generation Stude Driver,
        Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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        • #5
          Yeah, I'll have to pull it all apart and see what's going on there.

          ________________________
          Mark Anderson
          1965 Cruiser
          http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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          • #6
            quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

            I think I broke the seat in my Cruiser[B)]. I have the split bench with the recliner mechanisms. Yesterday while I was trying to get my wallet out I leaned back on the seat and it clicked and fell back about 3 inches. Now, I can't get it to stay in the upright position. I mean, it's up and I can drive it, but it's kinda ghetto. I took the cover plate off the ratchet mechanisms, and boy, that looks complicated in there.[B)]...
            You have joined an exclusive club of thousands. I'm surprised that you didn't get dumped in to the back seat. They usually let go all the way.


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            '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
            '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
            '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
            Museum R-4 engine
            Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
            '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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            • #7
              That's what I'm afraid of. I'm still driving the thing--it's my daily driver.

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              Mark Anderson
              1965 Cruiser
              http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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              • #8
                On Sunday afternoon I dismembered the recliner mechanism on my seat. It wasn't as complicated as it looked. Anyway, I didn't find anything really broken, but the gear teeth on both the slide gear and the backing plate were really worn. So, I decided to replace both pieces.

                On Monday, I ordered the parts to repair my seat from Sasco. They had both the slide gear and the backing plate in stock, and they were a bit cheaper than SI. They arrived on Wednesday! I probably won't get around to installing them until this weekend, but I'll update then.

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                Mark Anderson
                1965 Cruiser
                http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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                • #9
                  I replaced the seat adjuster last night. Everything looked good. So today, I'm driving back from the office and the entire seat back started slowly sinking backwards.

                  Where the seat back bolts to the adjuster stays in place, but I can manually move the seat back and forth. It's like the seat back is separated from the adjuster (although I can see where the seat back goes up inside the seat).

                  It appears that the seat back is fractured about 8 inches up. My question is, is it really broken or are their some bolts up inside the upholstery? I hate to pull the original upholstery off, but looks like I need to get to the frame. Does anyone have a picture of a split reclining front seat back with the upholstery off? I'd love to see what might be broken or going on in there before I start ripping into it.

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                  Mark Anderson
                  1965 Cruiser
                  http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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                  • #10
                    I took the car to an upholstery shop today and the guy showed me where the seat frame is broken right at the very bottom. It's actually the bar that runs horizontally across the back bottom of the seat back. Where it's welded to the upright bars, that weld has separated. He's going to pull the upholstery off the seat, weld the frame and put it all back together for $72.00.

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                    Mark Anderson
                    1965 Cruiser
                    http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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                    • #11
                      Mark,

                      I've been following the thread, seems like a happy ending to the problem. The price seems to be reasonable too.

                      Randy Wakefield
                      1955 President

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                      • #12
                        Glad to hear you will be back up and going! Thanks for the update.

                        Randy_G
                        1959 Lark Sedan
                        www.AutomotiveHistoryOnline.com

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