Announcement

Collapse

Get more Tips, Specs and Technical Data!

Did you know... this Forum is a service of the Studebaker Drivers Club? For more technical tips, specifications, history and tech data, visit the Tech Tips page at the SDC Homepage: www.studebakerdriversclub.com/tips.asp
See more
See less

POR 15 or like products????

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • POR 15 or like products????

    I'm going to be painting the underside of a 62 lark soon. I've never used products like POR 15, is it worth it or should I just stick with regular enamel with hardner? POR 15 seems awefully expensive...

    Does anyone have experience with other competing products of POR 15, ie Bill hirsch's "miracle paint", Magnet paints "chasis saver", etc?

    Anybody have an idea how much paint for doing a whole underside of a lark?

    Thanks
    KF

  • #2
    Our auto paint store had SEM products generic rust sealer type paint for way less than the "Real Deal". Ask someone who knows Automotive paint...not the paint websites!
    Rich.

    quote:Originally posted by 54-61-62

    I'm going to be painting the underside of a 62 lark soon. I've never used products like POR 15, is it worth it or should I just stick with regular enamel with hardner? POR 15 seems awefully expensive...
    Does anyone have experience with other competing products of POR 15, ie Bill hirsch's "miracle paint", Magnet paints "chasis saver", etc?
    Anybody have an idea how much paint for doing a whole underside of a lark? Thanks KF
    StudeRich
    Studebakers Northwest
    Ferndale, WA
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

    Comment


    • #3
      I did body work for 20 years; and while I have yet to try the POR-15, I can tell you that paint, hardener or not, does VERY little to protect from rust...

      If you're looking for rust protection, I recommend rubberized undercoating... I believe POR-15 is made to "neutralize" existing rust.

      Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
      Parish, central NY 13131
      http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

      Comment


      • #4
        Some other rust products -
        Evapo-Rust
        http://www.orisonmarketing.com/corro...vapo-rust.html

        Picklex20
        http://www.picklex20.com/

        Rust Bullet
        http://www.rust-bullet.com/wasser-por15-tests.html

        Zero Rust
        http://www.zerorust.com/
        64 Champ long bed V8
        55/53 Studebaker President S/R
        53 Hudson Super Wasp Coupe

        Comment


        • #5
          I have used the SEM brand rust preventative. {RUST SHIELD,RUST AND CORROSION CONTROL COATING BLACK, 38101. I bought a couple gallons about 6 years ago. Chuck Baranowsky turned me on to it. To me it is as good as the POR 15 and also less expensive. It is a semi gloss coating that looks great on frames, c&k fan shrouds, brake boosters, backing plates or whatever. I am happy using it. Sprayable and brushable. As with any coating, in my opinion, it is best to remove as much rust as possible, if not all. Go to their web site to see all the products they have to offer. jimmijim8
          sigpicAnything worth doing deserves your best shot. Do it right the first time. When you're done you will know it. { I'm just the guy who thinks he knows everything, my buddy is the guy who knows everything.} cheers jimmijim*****SDC***** member

          Comment


          • #6
            I just got a pint of Rust Bullet. I have not usd it yet, but if you read the literature available on it I would say it has POR-15 beat every which way.

            I can say, though, that the telephone assistance at Rust Bullet is very good.
            "Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.

            Comment


            • #7
              I have used POR with great success. I would never use it to fix holes like some folks have. I have used it as well as zero rust and prefer the POR. It is pricey, but it has great coverage. You MUST follow the instructions as far as metal prep etc go. If you spray it you must use a respirator as it has isocynates. You also must top coat it if it is exposed to the sun.
              Todd


              63 Lark 2dr Sedan

              Comment


              • #8
                I've used Por15 as well and had some major issues with it lifting. It was applied after pressure washing and using their cleaner and prep and by following the instructions to a "T".
                That is when I tried the Rust Bullet. I will say this about the rust bullet, if you top coat it with their black, you still need to sand before top coating regardless what they tell you ! I have had a steam cleaner water container full of water for over a year and still no rust has come thru, this was after knocking all the loose rust off and applying three coats to the inside of the tank.
                I am going to try some of the Zero Rust and see how it does.
                64 Champ long bed V8
                55/53 Studebaker President S/R
                53 Hudson Super Wasp Coupe

                Comment


                • #9
                  POR works alright. But you must use it on bare metal - or better yet - RUSTED metal. It's not a neutralizer, it's a barrier.

                  When it was fairly new on the market, I bought it and used it as a rust stop on the ragtop Lark's floors. There wasn't any thru rot or even BAD rust on the floors, just spots where it had started. The POR went on nicely and yet spray paint would've stuck better in the end. The stuff WILL NOT stick to paint worth a damn. You can slop it on over paint (or primer) alright, but you can peel it off without too much effort once it dries. Consider that if you're gonna be using it where there's some traces of old paint left and you figure you'll just coat everything to be safe.

                  Miscreant at large.

                  1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                  1960 Larkvertible V8
                  1958 Provincial wagon
                  1953 Commander coupe
                  1957 President 2-dr
                  1955 President State
                  1951 Champion Biz cpe
                  1963 Daytona project FS
                  No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Paint is not a rust preventative .Its just a waste of time and money to put underneath .Use por 15 or something like it.


                    David Baggett Mantachie,Ms.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Eastwood has the best I have ever used bar none. eastwood.com

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I don't know about paint's durability on the underside of a car, but about 50 years ago I took the door panels off of my '53 coupe and painted the inside and bottom of the doors with rustproofing paint. The car is currently being professionally restored, and they didn't need to do any repair on the doors as there was no rust!

                        Jerry Buck
                        '53 Champion Coupe-C
                        '61 Lark VI Convertible

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I used a product called Chassis Saver and it works pretty good, it is advertised in Hemmings, but I purchase it locally from main auto parts. The last quart I bought was around $26, and i brushed it over a rusty truck frame which has survived one einter with no problem, but three notes (which I believe apply to POR 15 also?) 1) it must be applied over rusty metal or sandblasted metal or it will not stick, 2) It is not UV resistant so it will fade if it is left in the sun, 3) Most importantly wear gloves and long sleeves because it is nearly impossible to get off your skin....I know, I walked around school for two weeks with gloss black hands

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Rust bullet is UV resistant and does not require etching before being applied. It adheres best when the surface (especially is painted) is sanded to rough it up. There is very little prep compared to POR-15. It is not black, but is a silvery gray.
                            "Madness...is the exception in individuals, but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche.

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X