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Speedster Rear Springs

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  • Speedster Rear Springs

    My Speedster sags just a little on the left side (front and rear). I noticed that there is a cylindrical rubber spacer bolted between the rear spring leaves just forward of the rear spring shackle on each side. They are old and somewhat deformed in shape, and appear to be stock. I looked in the '55 Shop Manual and see no mention of these. I do not yet have a chassis manual, so does anyone know anything about these spacers, if they are stock, and if there are available replacements?

    Thanks,
    Mike with Speedster

  • #2
    I don't have an answer for you on the spacers but I also had one
    side sagging a little in the back on my 55 Commander Coupe.

    When I replacee the shackle bushings they were wasted and oval.
    With all new bushings things leveled out again.

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    • #3
      To start with. The cylinderical rubber spacers should not be there.
      Are the springs tired ? The car is 50 years old and they could be orig.
      Klif

      55 Speedster
      42 Champ Coupe
      55 Speedster/Street Machine
      63 Avanti R2
      64 Convertible R1

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      • #4
        If your car is noticibly sagging, it would be prudent to immediately add either helper leaves to the springs or replace them entirely. You can be experiencing damage to your rear sway bar, where the armor on the E-brake cable may be sawing through it, due to the body settling.
        Adding a helper leaf, cut from a donor pack, is the easiest, although it is a little labor intensive.
        Ray Ficthorn sent me a pack of 4 leaves and I serviced 2 cars with them. Excellent remedy..

        BobJ
        55 President State
        64 GT Hawk
        70 Avanti
        64 GT Hawk (K7)
        1970 Avanti (R3)

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        • #5
          The spacers aren't a factory item. Just an after-market band-aid fix. What do the bushings look like at the rear of the springs? Are they in good shape or is the rubber in them gone?[?]

          Miscreant at large.

          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
          1960 Larkvertible V8
          1958 Provincial wagon
          1953 Commander coupe
          1957 President 2-dr
          1955 President State
          1951 Champion Biz cpe
          1963 Daytona project FS
          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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          • #6
            The car is not noticeably sagging at the rear, just a little low on the left side fornt and rear. I haven't yet looked at the bushings, but my guess is that they are probably shot. If I remove the rubber spacers can the leaves be re-arched, or must they be replaced? There is a local shop in Denver that can re-arch the leaves, but how would they know the specs?

            Thanks for your help and advice. Mike with Speedster.

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            • #7
              Yes, they can be re-arched. I'll bet they have reference sources to do it too. Fact is, I think I have some specs here. I'd hafta hunt for them.

              Miscreant at large.

              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe
              1957 President 2-dr
              1955 President State
              1951 Champion Biz cpe
              1963 Daytona project FS
              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              • #8
                Also check to see if anyone changed the rear leaf spring on the left and reinstalled the front mounting bolt in the wrong hole. The drivers side rear spring front mount goes in the LOWER hole. The passenger side goes in the UPPER hole. I believe the factory did this to compensate for driver weight. Also, check carefully for broken leaves...you may have one and not know it[:0]. Hope this helps
                Dan

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                • #9
                  Thanks again Dan, Biggs, BobJ, and Klif. I'll investigate further this evening.

                  Mike with Speedster

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                  • #10
                    Checked out the rear springs a little more closely tonite. Looks like 4 leaves, bushings look old but intact, rubber spacers on front and rear bolted through bottom leave with square u-bolt holding upper and lower leaves tight with rubber spacer tight in between. If anyone is interested, I can take a couple of pictures of this set-up. Both left and right front spring mounts on lower bolt holes. No sway bar, but brackets with hole xtending downward at each axle mount that look like a sway bar could be mounted from them. Springs look old and tired, kind of flat looking with some separation, but still have the plastic dividers in between that apparently are intact.

                    Mike with Speedster

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                    • #11
                      The holes in the spring mount are for sway bar linkage. The bars can be found on most Pres. sedans. The bushings can be found at S. I..
                      Klif

                      55 Speedster
                      42 Champ Coupe
                      55 Speedster/Street Machine
                      63 Avanti R2
                      64 Convertible R1

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                      • #12
                        Has the car under gone any sort of suspension work? I found out, at least on the 56 Hawk, that the two bars in the rear, where the springs end are different for left and right. One side has to be a bit shy of 3/4 longer than the other.

                        Stan Goldman pointed out to me that some companies who sell "correct" rear leaf springs are not using the same amount of leaves as the originals. I dont remember which side is which, buut one side gets one more leaf.

                        My car is propably one of the last 56J's that has the old Classic Enterprises Sub Floor Boxe assemblies under it. Now I have to cut out
                        one wall of the sub floor box that is under the rear seat to get acsess to the bushings.

                        Bummer

                        Proud owner of the Hawk from Hell...... aka as a tow truck queen

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