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    It's getting to be time to buy the Avanti some new tires.
    The old ones have plenty of tread but are age cracked.
    I plam to put radials on it, but I have a couple of questions:

    What size works best?
    What should be the width of the white wall for a proper 1963 look?

    And any suggestions for a source would be welcome...

    63 Avanti R1 2788
    1914 Stutz Bearcat
    (George Barris replica)

    Washington State

  • #2
    quote:Originally posted by JBOYLE

    [font=Comic Sans MS][blue]It's getting to be time to buy the Avanti some new tires.
    The old ones have plenty of tread but are age cracked.
    I plam to put radials on it, but I have a couple of questions:

    [b]What size works best?
    What should be the width of the white wall for a proper 1963 look?
    From the Coker Tire web site...

    http://www.coker.com/store/customer/...cat=300&page=1

    "3. What is the correct whitewall width for the year of my car?
    A: Since our tires are built in the original molds, they each feature the correct whitewall width for each particular size. If we have your original size, the whitewall widths will be correct. It can, however, be a matter of personal preference. Traditional whitewall widths fall into the following general range: Pre-1954 = 3" or more, 1954-1956 = 2 1/2" to 2 11/16",1957-1961 = 2 1/4" to 2 1/2", 1962-1964 = 1" or less."

    I believe 670 15's were stock. If you don't want to go with the original bias ply tires, a 205 75 15 is pretty close.





    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • #3
      April 62 was the transition point from 2 1/2 inch to 1 1/4 or 1 1/2.inch for Studebaker, so all Avanti's had the narrow whites even those made in 62.

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      • #4
        I believe 1" is correct for 63-64 Avanti. Firestones were OEM on most but my 64 came from the factory with Sears Allstate. Sears had an advertising promo on at the time.
        Denny L

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        • #5
          For me, on 95% of the old cars out there, the wider the better [8D]

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          • #6
            There would be something real wrong with putting wide whites on an Avanti. I bought regular Cooper white walls for my '64 Hawk and they look pretty much the way the pictures I have seen for '63/'64. If I had an Avanti I would probably go with red lines, they look pretty cool in my opinion. I would steer clear of Coker, non-US make tires and there have been some issues on balancing some of their wide whites. Diamond Backs (http://www.diamondbacktires.com/) are pretty nice since they vulcanize the white wall or other right on modern (new) tires.

            Dan White
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            • #7
              I don't think any "wide" white would be correct for an Avanti, possible exception would be a very early car you could get away with the narrow (1-1/4"?) whitewall that went all the way to the rim, but only on a very early car and I'm not even sure about that. I'd stick with a modern style whitewall about 1" wide as others have suggested.

              nate

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              • #8
                Wide whites on an Avanti? Maybe OK if it had a hopped up Flat head six with OD... It reminds me of that 56 truck on ebay a while back that JDP bought.

                Matthew Burnette, the 16 year old Stude nut.
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                • #9
                  I've actually seen a picture of a early factory prototype Avanti with wide white. (Not a pretty sight)

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                  • #10
                    Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:
                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...categoryZ66473

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                    • #11
                      According to my memory of the original tires (and original spares I have) and Coker's Info, 1.3 inches is too wide to be absolutety correct and look right, but I am sure they will work fine and look almost OK ![B)]

                      [quote]Originally posted by JDP

                      Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:
                      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQ...categoryZ66473



                      StudeRich
                      Ferndale, WA
                      StudeRich
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                      • #12
                        They varied from 1 inch to a 1 1/2 depending on brand. Here's a friends GT with 1.3's.



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                        • #13
                          quote:Originally posted by JDP

                          Just bought these on ebay, he may have more, perfect for late 62-66's:
                          The agressive, all weather, wrap around tread pattern just doesn't do it for me. Screams 2006.

                          Tread like these radials looks more 60's to me...

                          http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=4

                          http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=5

                          http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=7





                          Dick Steinkamp
                          Bellingham, WA

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                          • #14
                            Taste is a personal issue, if one likes a wide ww on their Avanti then who are we to say it looks like krap...to each his/her own...

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                            • #15
                              The gentleman did ask what would be the " proper look for a 1963" and was supplied with a variety of viewpoints. The alternating
                              opinions offered are helpful to me in this regard. The beauty of the forums.

                              I do agree with Dick in as much that
                              "The agressive, all weather, wrap around tread pattern just doesn't do it for me. Screams 2006."



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                              1936 Miller Replica/ Stude driveline

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