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  • 1939 Champion Shift

    Got the 1939 Champion running last night. Still running well five years after it was last started. However, I couldn't put it in gear. So I put the car in gear, and pushed the starter button (under the clutch) the car moves. (as expected.)(one or two starter motor turns). The car seems to shift fine when the engine is stopped.

    I presume something simple is sticking in the transmission, and I presume I can access it fairly easily - any thoughts?

    Paul R.

    P.S.: I am also looking for a hood latch and two stainless trim pieces for the hood.

  • #2
    Paul, the clucth plate's stuck to the flywheel. This is not uncommon of car's that have set for a time.

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    • #3
      Question: If I pull it in gear, backwards or forwards, is it likely to break loose? Or do I have to take it apart? Or should I be taking it apart anyway to clean up? Or will it clean up after a bit of a drive?

      Thank you

      Paul

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      • #4
        Just start the car with the parking brake set, the car in gear, and your foot on the clutch. The torque of the starter should break the clutch plate free.

        On my '62 Lark this was the case when I got the car, it freed right up, but the clutch disc was toast after only a couple hundred miles of driving. I ASSumed that I had a rear main seal leak as the engine leaked oil everywhere, but upon teardown the clutch disc was dry but worn to the rivets. Whether the rust caused exceptionally fast wear or if it was used enthusiastically by a previous driver I do not know.

        nate

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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

          Paul, the clucth plate's stuck to the flywheel. This is not uncommon of car's that have set for a time.
          I agree. That is why cars in storage or in museums have a block of wood holding the clutch pedal part way down, or at least that is the way that it used to be done.

          Gary L.
          1954 Commander Starliner (restomod)
          1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)
          Gary L.
          Wappinger, NY

          SDC member since 1968
          Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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          • #6
            It's going to depend on the condition of the disc. If it was beefy when it was parked it will probably break loose and be good for years. My Rockne sat for 31 years and the disc was froze. I broke it loose and it's still working fourteen years later.

            If it was close to worn when parked you can break it loose but it won't last long.
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            Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
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            • #7
              quote:Originally posted by 55s

              Question: If I pull it in gear, backwards or forwards, is it likely to break loose? Or do I have to take it apart? Or should I be taking it apart anyway to clean up? Or will it clean up after a bit of a drive?

              Thank you

              Paul
              I have successfully gotten clutches unstuck by putting the transmission in high gear (overdrive locked out, if present), having one person hold the clutch pedal to the floor, and two others pushing alternately forwards and back, rocking the car as you would to get out of a snowdrift. Engine off, of course. That usually creates enough impact torques on the clutch to break the rust bond holding it to the flywheel.

              Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
              Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by gordr

                I have successfully gotten clutches unstuck by putting the transmission in high gear (overdrive locked out, if present), having one person hold the clutch pedal to the floor, and two others pushing alternately forwards and back, rocking the car as you would to get out of a snowdrift. Engine off, of course. That usually creates enough impact torques on the clutch to break the rust bond holding it to the flywheel.
                I DO NOT recommend that anybody else does this, but I have got them unstuck by jacking up the rear end, starting the car in gear, depressing the clutch pedal, and taping the brake.



                Dick Steinkamp
                Bellingham, WA

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                • #9
                  Thank you for your suggestions. I've tried some of the gentler ones, working my way to the harder ones.

                  Since I'm from Canada, I'm used to snow drifts and getting stuck. Unfortunately, I'm also used to salt - and not for racing. Got to get together a pushing crew now.

                  Thanks, everyone. I will let you know if I get it.

                  Meanwhile, still looking for a 39 Champion hood latch and hood trim pieces! Leads and suggestions appreciated. I even have stuff to trade, if thats what it takes!

                  Paul

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