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R1 --- is this true ?

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  • R1 --- is this true ?

    I thought all R1 and R2 were factory installations.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

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  • #2
    WOW!! There is the ultimate sleeper! Wish it was closer.
    1955 Champion Deluxe 2dr.

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    • #3
      I think it may have been shipped to Rhode Island(RI) rather than to Andys Shop.

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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by Kdancy

        I thought all R1 and R2 were factory installations.

        They were. I wrote him with the correct info. He wrote back and thanked me. Said he was just taking a friend's word for the Granatelli thing. Doesn't look like he'll change the listing. Probably wouldn't effect the price one way or another, however.

        Doesn't look like a JT motor to me. It's got some kind of replacement engine tag on it and the engine SN doesn't look like a JT number...and the stamped letters/numbers are BIGGER than stock. The fuel delivery to the carb is wrong...should be hard plumbed with a glass bowl filter (with fuel tank return line) between the fuel pump and carb. Air cleaner is wrong and doesn't have the hose going from the oil pan breather to the carb. I guess it could be a replacement JT block and some PO lost some of the JT parts? but who knows.

        In any case, it is a pretty neat, rare car that would be a lot of fun.




        Dick Steinkamp
        Bellingham, WA

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        • #5
          Like every bit of misinformation, there's a grain of truth hidden in there... The R1 and R2 motors were developed with the help of the Granatellis for the Avanti, although they were produced on regular production lines. Some of the modifications were implemented across the board with the introduction of the full flow block, like the change in the size/location of the oil return holes. There's actually no difference between a R-series block and the regular full flow V-8 block, the difference is all in the pistons, heads, oil pan, cam, etc.

          As we all know, the R3 and R4 engines really were built by the Granatellis...

          nate

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          • #6
            The only thing that could make this car cooler (besides being in MY garage...) would be it being an R2!!!

            [8D]

            StudeDave
            San Diego, Ca


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            • #7
              "The only thing that could make this car cooler (besides being in MY garage...) would be it being an R2!!!"
              That's similar to my response to the car!
              But, the seller sent me a copy of the build sheet - just ask.
              "R1" appears only as part of the routing code. It left the factory with a garden variety 289, (same #, P H313, as now), and auto trans.
              It did have disc brakes, 4bbl, and twin traction! It's pretty neat; but not an R1.
              Mike M.

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by Mike

                "The only thing that could make this car cooler (besides being in MY garage...) would be it being an R2!!!"
                That's similar to my response to the car!
                But, the seller sent me a copy of the build sheet - just ask.
                "R1" appears only as part of the routing code. It left the factory with a garden variety 289, (same #, P H313, as now), and auto trans.
                It did have disc brakes, 4bbl, and twin traction! It's pretty neat; but not an R1.
                Mike M.

                Thanks, Mike, for digging deeper on this car and for posting the info you found here. It is a pretty neat car but not what the seller is representing. Thanks to you, if someone on the forum buys it, they will not be surprised.



                Dick Steinkamp
                Bellingham, WA

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