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49-55 1/2 ton C-Cab Rim Interchange

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  • 49-55 1/2 ton C-Cab Rim Interchange

    Hello all,
    I need to know what an average modern rim (F*rd, Ch*vy, D*dge) will interchange from a salvage yard or modern vehicle to the 49-55 Studebaker C-Cab 1/2 ton?

    John


    1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
    1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
    [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
    [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
    [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
    [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
    1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
    1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
    1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
    1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

  • #2
    Chev 1/2 Tons and small Toyota Trucks have the same pattern, but most do not fit "level" on the drum without spacing washers, not the safest way to go though!

    StudeRich
    Studebakers Northwest
    Ferndale, WA
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      It's a Chevy pattern, maybe a Chevy van or light truck.

      64 Commander 2 dr.
      64 GT Hawk R2 clone
      64 Daytona HT
      63 Cruiser
      63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
      63 Avanti R1
      63 Daytona convert
      63 Lark 2 door
      63 Lark 2 door #2
      62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
      62 Lark 2 door
      60 Lark HT
      60 Hawk
      59 3E truck
      52 Starliner
      51 Commander

      JDP Maryland

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      • #4
        It's a 5 on 5 pattern, but as has been said, the shape of the drum's outer face isn't friendly to many wheels with that lug pattern. There ARE some GM vans, some Cadillacs and even some mid-70s Lincolns With STEEL - not ALLOY) wheels that will work.
        It would be nice if there were some aftermarket adaptors/spacers that would accomodate a wheel change, but these don't exist! So you're left with a stack of washers - which is a piss-poor way to do things. Further, by the time you stack up enough washers to make up for the drum's different face, then you need to install longer lugs to give adequate length for the lug nuts to get a grip on.[xx(]

        Miscreant adrift in
        the BerStuda Triangle


        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
        1960 Larkvertible V8
        1958 Provincial wagon
        1953 Commander coupe

        No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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        • #5
          Greetings, All,

          The GM big car 5" pattern. I used to run '60s Cadillac and Buick steel wheels on my 1/2t.

          thnx, jv.

          PackardV8
          PackardV8

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          • #6
            I've got Buick Riviera wheels on Pete. This was done by using a Turner disc conversion on the front and having longer lug studs installed in the rear hub/drum assys. That and methodically stacking stacks of fender washers and measuring said stacks with vernier calipers to get 5 exactly alike stacks to put on each lug stud (on the rears only - which were and still are the original drum brakes) so the wheels would run true.
            No, it isn't "elegant", but I'd tried every wheel and tire outlet I could find and none of them carried a spacer/adaptor that was even CLOSE. And beyond that, I figured if I could find such a spacer that was close, I could have my machinist friend touch them up a bit so they'd work. No dice.
            The stacks of washers have worked well for 11 years now. I was careful to glue the washers from a given stack together so I didn't have to worry about them getting messed up - say, at some tire place or some such thing.
            Truth is, I'd still be running stock wheel if it were possible. Problem is, stock wheels won't clear the Turner disc setup, so I had to find an alternative.

            Miscreant adrift in
            the BerStuda Triangle


            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe

            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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            • #7
              The reasoning I am asking about the modern rims is for using modern radials. I'm not overly concerned about judging on this instance, and I do not wanna mess too much with the split rim we all know and love. What I am doing is finding something that will interchange just like the F*rd rims interchanged with my Lark. At the moment were not worried about turners(although they are great) just yet, just something that will fit comfortably and safely over the drums.

              John


              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
              1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
              [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
              [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
              [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
              [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
              1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
              1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
              1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
              1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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              • #8
                I've been working on wheels for my 48M5 and like the other posters, I've found nothing out there that comes close to an elegant solution. My M project started out with OEM brakes and wheels. I changed over to Chevy truck drums then found a Turner disc brake setup. The Stude 16x4.5 wheels don't clear the calipers so my plan was to come up with a 16x6 wheel to allow fairly tall modern radials and hoping also to keep the OEM hub cap and trim rings.

                I found a 70-ish F@#d F250 16x6 rim. Took the center out then tried to insert the center from my OEM Stude wheel. Sadly the Stude center diameter is about .190 too large. We actually thought about freezing the center with dry ice to shrink it but then thought better of the idea. Also you have to flip the wheel hoop over to get the correct backspace which is about 2 7/8". Once that's done the trim ring won't fit. So it's back to the drawing board. My local fabricator claims he can procure blank 16x6 wheel hoops from Stockton wheel but so far nada. Stockton can do the deed but they're spendy. I may have to stick to a 15" wheel as described above. That takes away the chance to use the Stude caps and will require a real tall tire to help keep the engine rpm's reasonable at crusing speed. --48M5
                sigpic
                48M5
                Sumner, WA

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                • #9
                  Bob, such spacers do exist, I bought 1/4 inch ones on ebay so the wheels do not hit the ridge on the drum.

                  64 Commander 2 dr.
                  64 GT Hawk R2 clone
                  64 Daytona HT
                  63 Cruiser
                  63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
                  63 Avanti R1
                  63 Daytona convert
                  63 Lark 2 door
                  63 Lark 2 door #2
                  62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
                  62 Lark 2 door
                  60 Lark HT
                  60 Hawk
                  59 3E truck
                  52 Starliner
                  51 Commander

                  JDP Maryland

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2

                    The reasoning I am asking about the modern rims is for using modern radials. I'm not overly concerned about judging on this instance, and I do not wanna mess too much with the split rim we all know and love. What I am doing is finding something that will interchange just like the F*rd rims interchanged with my Lark. At the moment were not worried about turners(although they are great) just yet, just something that will fit comfortably and safely over the drums.

                    John


                    1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                    1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
                    [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
                    [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
                    [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
                    [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                    Hey PBR2, 2R5's dont have split rims. If you have split rims then either they aint Studebaker truck rims or you dont have a 2R5 or you dont have a 2R5 with original 2R5 rims.

                    If you want to use any 5x5 wheel go to Studebaker Truck site and search for Jerry Kaiser;s Chevy truck drum conversion. Course that only works of the 1/2 ton 5 on 5 hubs.
                    Or check out this link
                    https://www.studebakerparts.com/stud...s/trkdrum.html


                    3E38
                    4E2
                    4E28
                    5E13
                    7E7
                    8E7
                    8E12
                    8E28
                    4E2
                    59 Lark
                    etc

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                    • #11
                      JDP, if spacers were found to work for you, that's great. I never could find any that wanted to clear the raised area - not out towards the outer edge - but that inboard of where the lug studs poke thru.
                      Of course, this was in '96 and I did go to MANY wheel and/or tire shops in the area.

                      Miscreant adrift in
                      the BerStuda Triangle


                      1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                      1960 Larkvertible V8
                      1958 Provincial wagon
                      1953 Commander coupe

                      No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Oh, I meant welded rims. I didn't wanna use the welded rims. Dunno where I got that semi truck term from. Too many terminologies to remember
                        1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                        1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                        1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                        1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          BTW, JDP, if you remember WHERE you got those spacers, alot of truck guys would rejoice.

                          In the case of Pete, the Riviera wheels I'm using have a less than flat face where they snuggle up against the drum. Maybe the Buick drums they worked in concert with were peculiar in their own right.
                          I've thought about finding some aftermarket wheels I like for Pete. These genuine Riviera wheels are gaining in value as time goes on.[:0]

                          Miscreant adrift in
                          the BerStuda Triangle


                          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                          1960 Larkvertible V8
                          1958 Provincial wagon
                          1953 Commander coupe

                          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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