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  • studebaker tranny to sbc

    I just bought an adapter to use a sbc in a studebaker. Was wondering what tranny a 52 commander sedan most likely came with. Rearend? Thanks, I appologize for my ignorance.

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    If you're going to use a SBC, I'd go with a newer driveline. Maybe a 700R4. This has an overdrive 4th gear, improving fuel mileage and will handle the torque of the modern engine without dealing with a second gear start. I'd also measure the rear axle and see if you can get Ford 8.8" rear end from a Ford Ranger. This rear end should be close. Just my opinion.

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    Tom - Sterling Heights, MI

    Ancient Chinese Proverb: "Injection is nice, but I'd rather be blown!"

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - Laguna Blue, Original 4-Spd. Car, Power Steering, Disc Brakes, Bucket Seats, Tinted Glass, Climatizer Ventilation System, AM Radio (136,989 Miles)
    Tom - Bradenton, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
    1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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    • #3
      The 52 Commander would have had a Borg-Warner T-86 if it was a standard shift car. It would have had a Detroit Gear DG-200 if it had been an automatic.

      Miscreant at large.

      1957 Transtar 1/2ton
      1960 Larkvertible V8
      1958 Provincial wagon
      1953 Commander coupe
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      1955 President State
      1951 Champion Biz cpe
      1963 Daytona project FS
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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

        The 52 Commander would have had a Borg-Warner T-86 if it was a standard shift car. It would have had a Detroit Gear DG-200 if it had been an automatic.

        Miscreant at large.

        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
        1960 Larkvertible V8
        1958 Provincial wagon
        1953 Commander coupe
        1957 President 2-dr
        1955 President State
        1951 Champion Biz cpe
        1963 Daytona project FS
        Those vintage adapters were for stick shifts only (IIRC), so it would most likely bolt to a T86 as Mr. Biggs states. The rear end in a '52 Commander would be a Dana 44.

        Is it a plate type adapter or a bellhousing type? How does the clutch work with the adapter? Did you get the pilot bearing adapter with it?

        -Dick-
        Dick Steinkamp
        Bellingham, WA

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        • #5
          Hold it guys i asked this same ? a little while ago you all said no adaptor nothig bolts to a stude but a stude so now there is one where did you fid the adaptor and what dose it cost because it they make such an animal then i might want to put that 3 speed back in since no one wants to buy it

          brent wood nh

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          • #6
            There is no adapter made today. He may have bought the old 50's version that was on ebay recently.

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            • #7
              Hoosier Machine Products, 312-314 Southeast Sixth st. Pendelton Oregon. and Trans Dapt P.O. Box 4157 Compton , Cal made them you might still be able to get one if they have any left. But you still need a pilot bearing and a few small pieces.

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by bills 57 champion

                Hold it guys i asked this same ? a little while ago you all said no adaptor nothig bolts to a stude but a stude so now there is one where did you fid the adaptor and what dose it cost because it they make such an animal then i might want to put that 3 speed back in since no one wants to buy it

                brent wood nh
                Brent, nobody's snowing you. The adaptor on eBay (I saw it too.)is for a Studebaker COMMANDER. Commanders (at least '51 through '58) are all V8 cars, and use a T86 transmission. The T86 is a bigger casting and uses a different bolt pattern to that of the T96 in your Champion.

                I once had a '65 Wagonaire. It came with a very tired 194 six, and it had a T96 tranny with overdrive. I installed a 283 V8 which would mate up to THAT PARTICULAR T96 because T96's made for '65 and '66 Studebakers had an input shaft designed to mate with the Chevy-type clutch. There was a cast-iron adaptor plate between the T96 tranny and the bellhousing. Anyway, that T96 lasted about 6 weeks before it blew up. They just cannot take the torque of the 283.

                If you are going to use a Chevy engine, you had might as well use a Chevy transmission. Make it easier on yourself. Truth be told, even the T86 tranny is really only strong enough for sedate driving behind a Stude V8 or 283 Chev. If you drive it hard, or drag race, you will blow it up, too. And all Stude manuals, except for the T10 4 speed, have non-synchro low gear, which is kind of un-fun.

                For the swap you contemplate, I'd really recommend either a TH700R4 automatic (or 200-4R), or else a manual 5-speed if you are like a standard shift. Might as well have synchro low, AND an overdrive top gear.

                Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
                Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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