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PCV retro-fit for '63 289

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  • PCV retro-fit for '63 289

    Relax, I am not going PC...I bought the R2 to be non-PC

    Looking at my chrome covers and oil breather caps, it occured to me that I would like to keep the normal oil fumes out of the air.

    Looking at aftermarket PCVs, this looks like a simple
    1) drill a hole in breather
    2) put in a grommet,
    3) somehow seal the cap.

    Questions:
    1. is this stupid?
    2. how do I seal the oil breather cap
    3. do I put PCV on both oil breathers?
    4. does size of PCV make any difference?

    Before someone asks, I rather use aftermarket for two reasons:
    1. availability and modern materials
    2. Stude PCV just went for $30 on eBay.

    cheers!

  • #2
    The R2 is already PC valve equipped. The valve screws in the back of the carb wirh a line running to the small tube on the oil pan breather.(The big tube on the passenger side of the pan)

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    • #3
      Do not install PCV valves in your oil filler/breather caps. Those caps are designed to let air into the engine when the engine is running. The factory PCV sucks air through the engine bringing outside air in through those caps.
      Gary L.
      Wappinger, NY

      SDC member since 1968
      Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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      • #4
        quote:Originally posted by JDP

        The R2 is already PC valve equipped. The valve screws in the back of the carb wirh a line running to the small tube on the oil pan breather.(The big tube on the passenger side of the pan)

        Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
        64 GT Hawk
        64 R2 4 speed Challenger
        63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
        53 Street rod
        Terry,
        1963 Avanti R2, 63SR1065 http://sterkel.org/avanti
        1985 Kubota L2202 (Diesel)
        2000 VW Jetta GLS
        2003 VW Jetta TDI (Diesel) http://sterkel.org/tdi

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        • #5
          you can buy replacement breathers that instead of having their own elements, suck fresh air from the air cleaner. If you are running an aftermarket air cleaner you could just knock a hole in the base for a hose fitting to hook 'em up. Not sure if the added restriction would be significant or not though...

          nate

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          • #6
            repost, sorry, lost my original message

            thanks!
            I will be back by Christmas and will check.
            If Studebaker was "normal", then the PCV is
            likely stuck/clogged by now and needs cleaning.

            cheers!


            quote:Originally posted by JDP

            The R2 is already PC valve equipped. The valve screws in the back of the carb wirh a line running to the small tube on the oil pan breather.(The big tube on the passenger side of the pan)

            Studebaker On The Net http://stude.com
            64 GT Hawk
            64 R2 4 speed Challenger
            63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
            53 Street rod

            Terry,
            1963 Avanti R2, 63SR1065 http://sterkel.org/avanti
            1985 Kubota L2202 (Diesel)
            2000 VW Jetta GLS
            2003 VW Jetta TDI (Diesel) http://sterkel.org/tdi

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            • #7
              If you need a new PCV valve, use NAPA # 2 9267.

              Jim Bradley
              '64 Daytona HT "Rerun"
              Jim Bradley
              Lake Monticello, VA
              '78 Avanti II
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              • #8
                Problem,

                NO PCV!

                could someone tell me where/how to install?

                Terry,
                1963 Avanti R2, 63SR1065 http://sterkel.org/avanti
                1985 Kubota L2202 (Diesel)
                2000 VW Jetta GLS
                2003 VW Jetta TDI (Diesel) http://sterkel.org/tdi

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                • #9
                  Look on the back of the carb or carb base and see if the PCV is there. If not there should be a pipe plug closing the hole. My '64's PCV was also missing when I bought it, the previous owner had taken it out and capped it off. One hot day I was driving and when I stopped I heard a loud POP. When I opened the hood the valve cover breather cap was laying next to the engine! PCV is a good thing!

                  Dan White
                  64 R1 GT
                  64 R2 GT
                  Dan White
                  64 R1 GT
                  64 R2 GT
                  58 C Cab
                  57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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                  • #10
                    The PCV valve should screw into the carburetor right in the middle at the bottom backside. The hose goes to the small tube on the breather coming from the side of the oil pan. The standard 289 uses a PCV valve in the valley cover and a short hose leading to a plain fitting in the carb, same location. The engineers changed the design to help facilitate internal oil drainage back to the oil pan. Because R engines had a bit of a problem with the oil 'hanging up' in the engine and subsequently starving the oil pump, I would hesitate at trying to redesign the PCV system and thereby maybe changing the flow of combustion gases inside the engine.
                    Tim K.
                    Tim K.
                    \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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                    • #11
                      If this is, in fact, an R2 engine, the PCV valve will screw into the back of the base of the AFB carburetor. The other end of the valve is connected by hose to the smaller tube on the crankcase breather, which is located on the right side of the oil pan. IIRC, the larger fitting was connected by hose to the air filter housing. This arrangement was unique to the R series motors which did not have the fitting in the valley pan.


                      Jim Bradley
                      '64 Daytona HT "Rerun"
                      Jim Bradley
                      Lake Monticello, VA
                      '78 Avanti II
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                      • #12
                        Typical for Studebaker, they never called the device a pcv...the parts book refers to it as a check valve "fitting" part number is:
                        1562731.

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