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1950 Champion, Frt. Stabilizer kit.

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  • 1950 Champion, Frt. Stabilizer kit.

    What advantage, if any, can I expect with the installation of a front stabilizer kit on my 1950 Champion. It was suggested by my mechanic but I'm thinking "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I know I need a right inner tie rod end to take care of of some steering play and he suggested the kit might also help.

    Thanks,
    Dick

  • #2
    By "Front Stabilizer Bar" - do you mean "Sway Bar"???[?] Because a '50 Champion should already have a sway bar incorporated on it standard.[:I]
    Admittedly, it's probably wimpy by today's standards but it's better than having none.

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    1957 Transtar 1/2ton
    1960 Larkvertible V8
    1958 Provincial wagon
    1953 Commander coupe
    1957 President 2-dr
    1955 President State
    1951 Champion Biz cpe
    1963 Daytona project FS
    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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    • #3
      Mr. Biggs,

      My shop manual notes it as a stabilizer shaft, I'd say it's also a "Sway Bar". A rose is a rose.... Anyway, the kit consists of the vertical shaft bracket assembly on each end of the horiz. sway bar.

      The car already has a front sway bar assembly, this would be a repair kit for the same.

      Thanks for your reply,

      Dick



      Dick
      Mountain Home, AR
      http://www.livingintheozarks.com/studebaker2.htm

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      • #4
        the "repair kit" I assume would just be four bushings, as none of the vehicles before the early 60's used a frame mounted sway bar. Might as well go ahead and do it; it probably won't reduce play in the wheel, but it will reduce body roll, which would be a Good Thing(tm)

        I am not sure if a '63-64 sway bar would bolt on to your frame or not, never having looked too closely at anything pre-'53. However, if it would, it might make a nice upgrade. I have a '63-64 sway bar on the front of my '55 coupe, along with the rear bar from a '55 sedan, makes a world of difference.

        nate

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        • #5
          Looking at the parts book illustration, it looks like the parts you speak of are nothing more than long hex-head bolts and 4 rubber bushings (which look like the bushings that go in the top of front end shock absorbers![:0])(HAH! I just checked part numbers and it DOES USE the same rubber grommet that the shock tops use!!!)
          Of course, there's the two bushings that hold the bar to the frame by virtue of the two metal clamps.
          I'd think some good grade 8 bolts and 8 new shock grommets would constitute this "kit" you speak of - or is there more than that that's worn or missing???[:I]

          Miscreant at large.

          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
          1960 Larkvertible V8
          1958 Provincial wagon
          1953 Commander coupe
          1957 President 2-dr
          1955 President State
          1951 Champion Biz cpe
          1963 Daytona project FS
          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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          • #6
            You got it Mr. Biggs! All the kit consists of is 4 rubber busings and the long shaft x two. While I'm doing the tie rod ends I think I'llgo ahead and upgrade the sway bar, as Nate suggested.

            Thanks,
            Dick

            Dick
            Mountain Home, AR
            http://www.livingintheozarks.com/studebaker2.htm

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            • #7
              Dick, the sway bar that Nate speaks of is not going to be a bolt-on deal. It looks nothing like the one on your '50.
              I'm not saying it couldn't be MADE to work, but it's not "interchangeable" with yours. The one Nate's talking about doesn't have any "links" to attach it to the lower A-arms. It fits right along the front edge of the lower control arms and attaches to them via rubber bushings that are clamped to the leading edges of the A-arms.
              It may well be possible to adapt it but not without some "engineering" involved.

              Miscreant at large.

              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe
              1957 President 2-dr
              1955 President State
              1951 Champion Biz cpe
              1963 Daytona project FS
              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              • #8
                Mr. Biggs,

                Right. Mine has links and that is what the kit replaces.

                Dick

                Dick
                Mountain Home, AR
                http://www.livingintheozarks.com/studebaker2.htm

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                • #9
                  Ah... I was envisioning the front sway bar on a '53 and I ASSumed that since a '50 Champ had a similar front suspension that the sway bar was similar. I don't have a parts book that early so I was guessing. Sounds like the setup you have should work better than the bar that I was imagining you had; I'd just go ahead and put new rubber on it unless you really have the itch to modify some stuff.

                  nate

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                  • #10
                    Yeah Nate, this thing's akin to what Avantis had at the rear.
                    A W I D E U-shape bar with ears on each end to recieve the "links" that reach down to ears on the front of the lower A-arms. Starting with '51, the bars were basically what was used thru to the end.

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                    1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                    1960 Larkvertible V8
                    1958 Provincial wagon
                    1953 Commander coupe
                    1957 President 2-dr
                    1955 President State
                    1951 Champion Biz cpe
                    1963 Daytona project FS
                    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                    • #11
                      sounds like a "normal" sway bar then, at least what I'm used to seeing on my brand-x cars. what's the diameter of that bar, just curious? Wonder why they switched; sounds like that was a theoretically better design than anything they used later up until '63 or so.

                      nate

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                      55 Commander Starlight
                      62 Daytona hardtop
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                      • #12
                        I can't get to my Starlight right now because of a full knee replacement about six days ago. I'd guess it's about 3/4" dia. and "U" shaped as Mr. Biggs said. Pretty basic.

                        Plans for the car in Jan. or Feb. are: Install sway bar kit, replace all inner/outer tie rods ends, replace its second set of bias tires with steel belted radials, check and reset all lifters and install new intake and exhaust gaskets, have front end aligned, install front seat belts.

                        Thanks for all the help guys, and have a Merry Christmas!

                        Dick

                        Dick
                        Mountain Home, AR
                        http://www.livingintheozarks.com/studebaker2.htm

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                        • #13
                          Dick,

                          Having your personal "ball joints" replaced, eh?[:0] Amazing how common that is nowdays!

                          Here's hopin' you're back under that Starlight soon. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year back at ya!

                          Miscreant at large.

                          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                          1960 Larkvertible V8
                          1958 Provincial wagon
                          1953 Commander coupe
                          1957 President 2-dr
                          1955 President State
                          1951 Champion Biz cpe
                          1963 Daytona project FS
                          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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