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  • Fluid & lubricant specs

    Just making sure before I change the fluids and all...

    Coolant: 17.25 quarts
    Transmission fluid: 3 pints
    Oil: 6 quarts
    Rear axle: 3 pints
    Brake fluid: 1/2" from the top of M/C after bleeding?

    What I don't think I'm reading it right is on the 2nd page of the Lubrication section of my manual. Under Transmission Capacities, it says Commander with Overdrive is 3 pints of fluid, but then says below that for a Commander with Automatic Drive is 9-1/2 quarts of fluid? Is the first amount just for a stick shift? That's a big jump from 3 pints to 9-1/2 quarts... I just want to be sure.

    Am I forgetting anything else?

    1951 Commander Starlight Coupe (aka "Stella")
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    Yes, the first is for standard shift, Eman. And if you have such with overdrive, the aft section gets topped off seperatly from the front section. One does not flow into the other. That's why there's two drain plugs and two fill plugs.

    Have you greased everything??? Don't overlook the one grease zerk that pokes out of the rear edge of that front crossmember. That greases the center-point bellcrank of the steering.
    There's even grease zerks for the shift levers at the base of the column and for the pedal pivot points under the floorboard. Zerks at either side of the cross-shaft in the bellhousing, Zerks on the U-joints in the driveshaft, kingpins, knuckles and steering linkages.
    There's also little oiler ports on the ends of the generator and for the base of the distributor.[]

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    1957 Transtar 1/2ton
    1960 Larkvertible V8
    1958 Provincial wagon
    1953 Commander coupe
    1957 President 2-dr
    1955 President State
    1951 Champion Biz cpe
    1963 Daytona project FS
    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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    • #3
      Thanks Mr. Biggs.

      And as long as I make one of these choices for each, I think I should be good to go...

      Transmission fluid: Dexron III or Type F
      Oil: Rotella 15W-40 (Should I take the Quaker State 10W-30 back?)
      Brake fluid: Dot5 or heavy duty Dot3
      Coolant: Straight antifreeze or 50/50 mix
      Rear axle lubricant: Saw 85W-140GL5 tonight at WalMart. That ok?

      I still need to check/replace that oil pressure hose (feeding into the gage) like you suggested too... If I can find the location and part number.

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      • #4
        So this car HAS an automatic trans? DexronIII will do fine. Just be sure you drain the torque convertor too! If you take that plate off the bottom of the bell housing and work the torque convertor around, you'll find a metal plug. Unscrew it and have a drain pan ready. It drains seperate from the main body of the tranny.

        I personally wouldn't put that rotella in there. Use the QS

        Go with the DOT 3

        NEVER straight anti-freeze! Always a mix.

        The GL5 will be fine.

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        1957 Transtar 1/2ton
        1960 Larkvertible V8
        1958 Provincial wagon
        1953 Commander coupe
        1957 President 2-dr
        1955 President State
        1951 Champion Biz cpe
        1963 Daytona project FS
        No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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        • #5
          Anti-freeze should be mixed with the water at a certain ratio. You check the freezing point of your mixture to see if you have the right mix. As I recall, it was done with an optical instrument. At any rate, you need a coolant freezing point lower than your winter temp's because of the "wind-chill" factor.
          /H

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          • #6
            Here in the rust belt, we need to check antifreeze carefully. You can buy a tester at your local FLAPS to check it. A specific gravity guage, has a bunch of little pellets in a bulb-type syringe. You suck the mixture up into the dropper and the number of pellets that float to the top will tell you the freeze resistance of your antifreeze mix. Doesn't cost much - cheaper than a cracked block!

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            • #7
              Do you know how to make aunti-freeze ?
              Just take away her nighty.
              OK,Ill go away now.

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by hank63

                Anti-freeze should be mixed with the water at a certain ratio. You check the freezing point of your mixture to see if you have the right mix. As I recall, it was done with an optical instrument. At any rate, you need a coolant freezing point lower than your winter temp's because of the "wind-chill" factor.
                /H
                The "wind chill" factor has absolutely nothing to do with what anti-freeze mixture your car will need. Wind chill is evaporation from your skin causing your skin to believe the temperature is lower than it really is. There is no wind induced evaporation in your car's cooling system.
                I believe that a 50%-50% mixture is good to use. I once bought a car with 100% anti-freeze. I just drained half out and refilled with water.
                Gary L.
                Wappinger, NY

                SDC member since 1968
                Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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                • #9
                  I agree; wind chill factor has no effect on radiator coolant. A 50/50 mix should protect to 20 or 30 below zero. Any mix stronger than that is counter productive and, in the summer, will adversely effect the boiling point.
                  "All attempts to 'rise above the issue' are simply an excuse to avoid it profitably." --Dick Gregory

                  Brad Johnson, SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                  Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                  sigpic'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight "Désirée"

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                  • #10
                    Just to add to the Anti Freeze mixture. They sell both 100% and a 50/50 mix. If you buy the mix do not delute with water. I now live in Houston so it isn't an issue anymore but up in Ohio it did cause some problems for people who assumed they were buying 100% when infact it was the mix. I hope this helps.

                    1956 Studebaker Pelham Wagon Houston, Texas
                    Remember, \"When all is said and done. More is always said then ever done.\"

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                      • #12
                        When it gets into subzero temperatures I block off some of the radiator with a cardboard cover. Yes,I know if the thermostat is working proper the enging will run at aproporate temperature. But it sure helps keeping the engine compartment warmer and the generator works at,say, 60 degrees as aposed to -20 degrees. I think the generator was designed to run in warm to hot suroundings. Once at -26 I covered 100 % of the radiator and drove interstate roads all day, car never overheated and I was warm inside the car. However, I did remove the cardboard when I went through St. Louis at rush hour.

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                        • #13
                          Hah! Curt I did that with my old Champ truck in December of '81. I was leaving Little Rock AR, and it was -something degrees as I recall. I got a piece of carboard and blocked off ALL of the radiator so I could get some warmth out of the heater![V] Drove on the interstate for hours without a problem, althought I did tear away enough cardboard to expose about a 1/4th of the rad's surface as the day warmed up a bit. Didn't stop that trek until I hit Phoenix!

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                          1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                          1960 Larkvertible V8
                          1958 Provincial wagon
                          1953 Commander coupe
                          1957 President 2-dr
                          1955 President State
                          1951 Champion Biz cpe
                          1963 Daytona project FS
                          No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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