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    Can anyone tell me what engine is in my Champ pick up. It is an OHV 6 cyl. painted yellow,? What do you need to know to ID it? Also any ideas where to look for front fenders and do Lark fenders and doors fit. Thanks for any help. Ray

  • #2
    Lark doors and fenders will work. Make sure the doors are from a 4 door. (only 59-62 though) The OHV 6 didn't come out until 1961, and it would ba a 170 CI. Also, you can buy new fiberglass fenders too!

    Matthew Burnette; the world's most
    dedicated 15 year old Stude nut!
    [img] http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg [/img]
    1963 Daytona HT
    lots more Studes
    and a few parts cars
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    • #3
      Thanks. I had a feeling the engine may be a transplant. Most pics I saw were flat heads. Thanks again, Ray

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      • #4
        What year is your 'Champ'? Only one year, 1960, would have a flathead engine.

        Dwain G.

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        • #5
          The reg. says '59, but actually I didn't think to check the ID plate. I will do that today.

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          • #6
            Yeah, the Champ truck didn't come out til 60. The next Stude I hope to own will be a Champ. Short wheel base (Studebaker bed, not the Dodge) and it will have a R1 with 3 speed OD.
            (It's a dream car, so let me dream )

            Matthew Burnette; the world's most
            dedicated 15 year old Stude nut!
            [img] http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg [/img]
            1963 Daytona HT
            lots more Studes
            and a few parts cars
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            • #7
              That registration has to be wrong. This since they didn't make a Champ truck until 1960. Of course, the registration may say that it was first SOLD in 1959, since the 1960 models would've been introduced in late '59.
              The ID plate (on the door jamb) should start out "5E" if it's a '60 model. 6E is '61, 7E is '62 and 8E is 63 & 64. Whichever it is, it'll likely be followed by another "5" digit which would indicate a 1/2ton model with a 6 cylinder engine.
              As Dwain said, only '60 had a flathead6 originally, but your truck could have been retrofitted with the later OHV6 (which was introduced in 1961) Both the flathead and OHV of that era were 170cu.in. displacement engines.

              Miscreant at large.

              1957 Transtar 1/2ton
              1960 Larkvertible V8
              1958 Provincial wagon
              1953 Commander coupe
              1957 President 2-dr
              1955 President State
              1951 Champion Biz cpe
              1963 Daytona project FS
              No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              • #8
                Wasn't the OHV six made by developing a new head design for the flat head six?


                Matthew Burnette; the world's most
                dedicated 15 year old Stude nut!
                [img] http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg [/img]
                1963 Daytona HT
                lots more Studes
                and a few parts cars
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                • #9
                  Yup. They simply didn't have the money to engineer and retool for a whole new engine. Too bad, too. I'm sure it would have been bigger and better than the compromise that the OHV 170 was.[}]

                  Miscreant at large.

                  1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                  1960 Larkvertible V8
                  1958 Provincial wagon
                  1953 Commander coupe
                  1957 President 2-dr
                  1955 President State
                  1951 Champion Biz cpe
                  1963 Daytona project FS
                  No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                  • #10
                    I wish they had of done that too. But, I still like my 63 Daytona 6 just how it is. It's no big performer, but there will be other Studes in the future for that...
                    (buy I won't ever sell that Daytona. BTW, it needs a name!)

                    Matthew Burnette; the world's most
                    dedicated 15 year old Stude nut!
                    [img] http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg [/img]
                    1963 Daytona HT
                    lots more Studes
                    and a few parts cars
                    http://community.webshots.com/user/mbstude101

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                    • #11
                      Thanks For the help guys. I got real busy and forgot to check the tag today, but it looks like your still telling me it's a swaped engine. Does anyone have experience with rebuilding the front cab mounts? Should I start a new topic with that question? Thanks again, Ray

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                      • #12
                        In the general discussion,read 'sick Studie.Classic Enterprizes in Wisconsin makes the mounts.I have their catalog[but not with me right now]I'd imagine the Lark mounts will work on a Champ.

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                        • #13
                          Ray,
                          If your truck is a '60, it should have the flat head Lark 6. So, you may have an engine swap in your vehicle. The overhead valve 6 that you have came out in '61 and should be a little peppier than the flat head.
                          Rog
                          '59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop
                          Smithtown,NY
                          Recording Secretary, Long Island Studebaker Club

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                          • #14
                            I don't think the Champ mounts are ANYTHING like the Lark mounts. The Champ has two mounts in the front corners of the cab, but the Lark has two mounts in the engine compartment. You can see them just hanging in space in a Champ, all the sheet metal is the same, but the frame that supports it is of course VERY different.

                            Jeff DeWitt
                            Jeff DeWitt
                            http://carolinastudes.net

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                            • #15
                              Wow Matthew... That is a bold statement!
                              I remember my Stude passion at 15... (Ran a close second to hormones)... You just keep your focus and max out your school work. If you get the school things done correctly, the Stude stuff will fall in line like dominoe's!
                              See you in Lake Mary!
                              Jeff[8D]


                              Matthew Burnette; the world's most
                              dedicated 15 year old Stude nut!
                              [img] http://jnautoair.com/images/yelstude2.jpg [/img]
                              1963 Daytona HT
                              lots more Studes
                              and a few parts cars
                              http://community.webshots.com/user/mbstude101
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                              Jeff


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