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  • Baker54
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    Originally posted by mrobertweiss View Post
    I can send these to your email if you wish, PM, etc.
    I would like to see any photos you can share of your project. I haven't used the PM box so either that or my home address is larryl@rectec.net

    Thanks for helping me with this.

    Larry

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  • mrobertweiss
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    I can send these to your email if you wish, PM, etc. The brackets for the evap to firewall placement were straightforward, I don't recall what i used but probably some 1 inch 1/8 thick steel bar bent as needed. It's pretty obvious how to put it up. I did have to trim the ABS plastic heat dump openings slightly to fit it in, but again that was obvious how to do that. I Did NOT use the standard windshield wiper motor on this project, and the switch is seen in the above photo on the wood faced console, towards the right. That's another story. I wouldn't recommend what i did with the WW. The heat AC control was fitted into the dash where the original was, but it took a little work; the VA controls I used were the rather overpriced aluminum knobs, a nuisance to attach. The standard WW transmission shouldn't interfere with this setup, I just didn't use it.

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  • Baker54
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    Originally posted by mrobertweiss View Post
    The gen 4 VA unit will fit with some care, high powered and their best AC. The evap unit will show below the dash, but that's the way it is with most modern SUV and trucks. I didn't care about it.
    Thanks for the photo. It gave me ideas on where to put the controls. I assume you still have the factory wiper system and defrosters in place. I have ordered a Gen IV mockup unit to determine spacing. Do you have any photos on the brackets you used or made to hold the evaporator?

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  • mrobertweiss
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    The gen 4 VA unit will fit with some care, high powered and their best AC. The evap unit will show below the dash, but that's the way it is with most modern SUV and trucks. I didn't care about it.

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  • Baker54
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    Originally posted by mweiss View Post
    Used a Gen lV Vintage Air unit with a 56 Golden Hawk dash in a 53 HT. Fits with slight trimming of the heat dump openings at bottom of evap unit, and you can mount to standard crossbar for the dash. The unit will show in the front firewall area of passenger side, but looks like it belongs. Email me for photos of the project if you wish to see.The advantage of the Gen lV is it's their biggest and best unit, plenty of air flow. Thanks, m weiss

    ok
    Would it still be possible to get these photos? Larry

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  • johnod
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    quote:Originally posted by Jim B PEI

    The vents/air distribution is Jeep; I'm not sure what is under the hood as a compressor, but again likely Jeep. Its the inside bit that looks and works surprisingly good, and fits extremely well.

    That sounds pretty interesting,this is a behind the dash unit?
    I'll have to cruise the junk yard see what I see. If you get a chance to talk to the guy, any more info, or pics would be appreciated.
    Thanks again everyone

    John
    Jim B on PEI
    63 259 o/d Wagonaire
    57 Champion W4 o/d
    57 Champion W4 automatic

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  • Jim B PEI
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    The vents/air distribution is Jeep; I'm not sure what is under the hood as a compressor, but again likely Jeep. Its the inside bit that looks and works surprisingly good, and fits extremely well.

    Jim B on PEI
    63 259 o/d Wagonaire
    57 Champion W4 o/d
    57 Champion W4 automatic

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  • Jim B PEI
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    Well, this 'might' seem unusual, but a local fellow Doug Parkman put a Jeep unit in his 'almost original' 61 Hawk. I think it is a Cherokee type--it fits very nicely on the bottom edge, all the way across, with adjustable vents the length of it. It almost looks like it was designed precisely for this car--when you think of it, it makes sense with the Wagoneer/Wagonaire Jeep/Studebaker Brook Stevens design thing going. They are quite shallow in depth, and don't get in the way like under dash units do. It blows cold enough that the A/C has to be turned off. (Don't want to overload that 61 generator either!) Sorry, don't have pictures at present.

    Jim B on PEI
    63 259 o/d Wagonaire
    57 Champion W4 o/d
    57 Champion W4 automatic

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  • johnod
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    [quote]Originally posted by mweiss

    Used a Gen lV Vintage Air unit with a 56 Golden Hawk dash in a 53 HT. Fits with slight trimming of the heat dump openings at bottom of evap unit, and you can mount to standard crossbar for the dash. The unit will show in the front firewall area of passenger side, but looks like it belongs. Email me for photos of the project if you wish to see.The advantage of the Gen lV is it's their biggest and best unit, plenty of air flow. Thanks, m weiss

    Sent you an email, yes please to any info you can give me.

    Thanks

    John

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  • mweiss
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    Used a Gen lV Vintage Air unit with a 56 Golden Hawk dash in a 53 HT. Fits with slight trimming of the heat dump openings at bottom of evap unit, and you can mount to standard crossbar for the dash. The unit will show in the front firewall area of passenger side, but looks like it belongs. Email me for photos of the project if you wish to see.The advantage of the Gen lV is it's their biggest and best unit, plenty of air flow. Thanks, m weiss

    ok

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  • johnod
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    Thanks for all the info everyone, I'll be looking into all of this, and contacting various people thanks to all the info given here.

    If anyone else has anything to add please do, as I'll continue checking this thread.

    John

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  • Pat Dilling
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    [quote]quote:Originally posted by johnod

    Originally posted by Pat Dilling

    Welcome to the forum. Take a look at what these folks are doing with a Vintage air set up; http://www.street-rod-concepts.com/g...d+10-16-09***/

    I have a Southern Air set up in mine but will be changing to a Vintage Air mid size set up this winter. The Southern Air works OK, but I want something that will move more air and is quieter.

    Pat

    Pat, thanks for the reply and link, looks like a nice install, don't know if my fab skills are up to that, also not sure how that would work with a fibreglass dash.
    Have you any pics of your install i might have a look at?

    John
    Sorry, I don't have any pictures showing the unit installed.

    Pat

    Pat Dilling
    Olivehurst, CA
    Custom '53 Starlight aka Stu Cool

    LS1 Engine Swap Journal: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ournalid=33611

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  • 53k
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    quote:Originally posted by johnod

    I'm new here and this is my first post Presently living in southern Ont. Can. Bought a modified 53 Champ coupe a few months ago, finally, I'd wanted one for a long time.
    One of the things I'd like to add is aftermarket AC. Underdash units seem the easiest, naturally thats not what i prefer.I'd like a behind the dash unit, I'm planning on using a 56 hawk dash, but there is not much room back there as I'm sure you know.
    Can anyone recommend something they've used that will fit? Pics would be great too. Any help would be appreciated.
    Check with Ebon Jones (posts as Railway on the Forum). He is in the business (in Texas) and has installed air conditioners in many Studebakers. He can probably put together a kit for you that includes everything you need (he did for my '64 Daytona convertible).



    Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Daytona convertible, '53 Commander Starliner, Museum R-4 engine, '62 Gravely Model L, '72 Gravely Model 430

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  • Jerry Forrester
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    quote: is there room for a radio in the stock area? Not sure what a 55 dash looks like, whether it's a 56 style or 54 style, steel or glass. If you have a pic of the finished install I'd love to see it, I'm curious to know how much of the evap. is hidden by the dash. Thanks again.
    I'm not using a '55 dash, I am using a Winged Hawk dash. All the stuff in a Winged Hawk dash fits.
    The only part of the evap. case that is visible is the heated air outlets where the firewall meets the transmission tunnel. Like Steve Hudson's dash, the AC outlets will be in a panel added onto the bottom of the dash.
    You'll notice in the pic that I did away with the factory dash cross bar and fabbed one with 1/4 X 2 flat bar. The evap. unit is mounted on that bar in the front and the rear hangs off a bracket coming down from the original body brace at the top of the firewall. An elevator bolt welded to the firewall on the passenger side mounts that side of the evap. unit.

    On another subject, you may want to preview and edit your replies to remove all the unwanted text and pictures. I don't know if it eats up bandwidth or what, but it makes reading your replies much easier if they don't have all the unwanted, unneeded and extra stuff in them.
    I'm not chiding you for the way you post your replies, I'm just conveying what it has taken me years to learn.

    ...............................................

    I am in the process of getting parts and pieces gathered up for the May 2010 South Bend Swap meet. How about you?

    Jerry Forrester
    Forrester's Chrome
    Douglasville, Georgia
    Be sure to check out my eBay store
    http://stores.ebay.com/CHROME-CHROME-CHROME
    for your shiny Stude stuff.

    More pix of Leo the '55 Pres HT here...http://tinyurl.com/2gj6cu

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  • TedsHawk
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    Theses guys list a Hawk style dash with room for dash vents. they used to show a picure. Im sure someone here must have used a dash like and has pics.
    http://www.classglassperformance.com...tudebaker.html

    1957 Golden Hawk
    "Studebaker? they dont make them anymore"

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