NOS fuel pump number

[E. Davis]

We have a guy from the west coast come to our antique car swap meet each spring with a grundle of NOS AC fuel pumps in the boxes. I need to know the original AC part number for the pump for 289 in 61 Hawk. Have to dig through the boxes cause he doesn't have them sorted by application. Thanks.

[StudeRich]

If they are AC or AC clones, and you need it for a V-8, FORGET IT! Run the other way! [:0]

For a 6 cyl. they may be OK, but for a V-8 the Carter is the OEM, NOS pump, AC is NORS and junk! [xx(]

Here are more posts about CARTER pumps:
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...rter,fuel,pump

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...rter,fuel,pump

Here is a picture of a AC/Airtex AC clone, fuel pump on Bob Johnstone's site:

http://studebaker-info.org/tech/fuel...fuelpump8.html
Article includes a possible fix if you're so inclined.

StudeRich

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[Invalid User Name]

I'm going to be the weenie here and say that if they are NOS forget them. That means the rubber and gaskets are probably several decades old. You're asking for trouble. Both Auto Zone and NAPA carry fuel pumps for Studebakers and they are nice and fresh.


Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1

[52-fan]

If the Auto Zone/NAPA pumps are Airtex you will be no better off.

"In the heart of Arkansas."
1952 Champion Starlight w/overdrive. Searcy, Arkansas

[N8N]

yes, I would rather have a NOS pump and have to kit it than an Airtex.

see here for tune up charts with the fuel pump mfgr. nos. listed

http://www.studebaker-info.org/tech/...Tuneupcht.html

I think that the pump you're looking for is a Carter with a glass bowl and "stone" filter. I believe that '61 was one of the years where the Larks got the newer style pump with metal bowl and pleated paper filter and the Hawks kept the old style, but I'm going off memory here so someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.

nate

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[mbstude]

Everyone talks about NOS V8 Carter pumps and new rebuild kits. Where might I find either? Last I checked, a Carter pump was priced through the roof and rebuild kits were not available.

I've been running the same Airtex on my daily driven Commander since February. No idea how many miles I've put on the car.

If it goes out, I have a new $20 replacement in the trunk. Only takes 10 minutes to change.

[r1lark]

quote:Originally posted by mbstude

Everyone talks about NOS V8 Carter pumps and new rebuild kits. Where might I find either? Last I checked, a Carter pump was priced through the roof and rebuild kits were not available.

I've been running the same Airtex on my daily driven Commander since February. No idea how many miles I've put on the car.

If it goes out, I have a new $20 replacement in the trunk. Only takes 10 minutes to change.

Matthew,

I got my kit (for a '64 V8 Carter) from these folks: http://www.maritimedragracing.com/an...rts_cellar.htm

Have not run the car yet, hopefully in the next few days. Several items were not correct in the kit, and as usual this company made it sound like it was my fault. First they said I didn't give them the right information, then they said the pump had been rebuilt previously and parts were mixed with other year Carters. (Of course, since this was a NOS pump when it was put on the car about 15 years ago......and since I also had a NOS rebuild kit to compare the parts to....I knew this wasn't the case.) I ended up giving them the Carter part numbers out of the Parts Manual, and they got me the correct parts except for the bottom bowl (late metal bowl) gasket for which I ended up having to make the gasket.

Be forwarned that the 'oil' seal (the seal that blocks oil/crankcase fumes from getting to the top of the diaphragm) is not the Carter design; they use a modified AC design and say Carter will not let them reproduce the original design. Was a little concerned about it, but it's the only game in town so we'll see how it works long term.

As far as the Airtex pumps - like you, I've had no problem at all with them over the 25 years I've used them. Do go ahead and put expoxy over the ends of the piviot pin to stop the oil leaks. But other than that, no issues.

Paul
Winston-Salem, NC
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[Invalid User Name]

Paul, I'm glad to hear you haven't had trouble with Airtex because that is what I got for my 1950 Champion. In fact I got 2 of them because non-ethenol gas is not available around here except at the marinas at about $.75 more a gallon. When the first one pukes I'll put the second one on.


Doug
Venice, Florida
1950 Champion
9G F1

[E. Davis]

Lots of good info. Thanks guys.
E. Davis

[StudeRich]

Well, since we have almost a 50/50 mix of opinions about the value of the AC/Airtex V-8 fuel pumps, I gotta say: good luck guys with those Airtex pumps! [V]

But for me, I'll run those OEM, correct, original Carters til they disintegrate! They have usually lasted about 30 years, and now with the new Alcohol resistant repair kits, maybe longer! [^]

In case the unlikely happens, I too always carry a spare Airtex [u]in the TRUNK</u> where they belong!

But remember though, I MAY be the guy at an International Meet, judging your car, and I DO know the difference! Lol!

Seriously though, guys and gals: Have a Great and prosperous New Year, and keep those Studes on the road, shiny side up!

StudeRich

[mbstude]

Rich.. Again, who has the "new Alcohol resistant repair kits"?

Judging at an International meet? Sorry.. Won't happen. You can't tell what fuel pump I have when the car is driving down the road.

I think "factory correct" is overrated sometimes.

[curt]

I had an Air Tech in my V-8 ( rebuilt Carter leaked oil) , Air Tech leaked oil early in service; replacement with same brand ( Air Tech) has been fine. I think it is a good policy to carry a spare fuel and water pump on the Studebaker V-8. Also, an electric fuel pump with a filter between the tank and e-pump should be in the fuel line, hot weather's vapor lock will be quieted fast.

[N8N]

Tom Karkiewicz still had good used original pumps for cheap last time I saw him, Fairborn has rebuild kits but they have been going up in price unfortunately. Last one I bought was about $40 IIRC.

nate

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[63t-cab]

Nate,I guess that's about right the Carter rebuild kit I ordered is about $38.00

Joseph R. Zeiger