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Loud or Quite Tone Mufflers?

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  • Loud or Quite Tone Mufflers?

    I too am in the market for a new exhaust system and have decided to go with Don Simmons SS exhaust system. My new R2 engine should put out some horsepower and have been recommended to go with the 2 1/4". I am using the cast iron headers with my system also. Is anyone using the Silvertone Mufflers? I want a throaty exhaust but not too loud. When I drive out of the local cruise night I want the guys who are in love with their Mustangs/Camaros to know the Studebaker just left the parking lot but then again I like to hear Music too. What should I use Loud or quiet tone?

    Allen

    1964 GT Hawk soon to be R2 Clone
    1964 GT Hawk
    PSMCDR 2014
    Best time: 14.473 sec. 96.57 MPH quarter mile
    PSMCDR 2013
    Best time: 14.654 sec. 94.53 MPH quarter

    Victoria, Canada

  • #2
    If you really want the Mustang/Camero Guys to hear you it will have to be the loud ones. If your stereo is not loud enough get an amplifier!!![8D]

    GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

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    • #3
      Loud, thanks.

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      • #4
        The 2 1/4 has it's own, deeper tone. I prefer the loud, but the quite is not all that quite either.


        64 Commander 2 dr.
        63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black) #2
        63 Avanti R1
        63 Daytona convert
        63 Lark 2 door
        63 Lark 2 door #2
        62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
        62 Lark 2 door
        62 GT Hawk 4 speed
        60 Lark HT
        60 Hawk
        59 3E truck
        52 Starliner
        51 Commander

        JDP Maryland

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        • #5
          2 1/4 inch and Don's quiet tone are what's on mine. Sounds good to me.

          Tim K.
          '64 R2 GT Hawk
          Tim K.
          \'64 R2 GT Hawk

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          • #6
            There's nothing quite like the visceral feel of a powerful engine that's got just the right muffler.[8D][] One can feel that throb of the motor[^] without being deafened by an obnoxiously loud exhaust note.[}][8D] Impressive is not always analogous to obnoxious. A lesson that many of our younger fellows could stand to learn.


            Lotsa Larks!
            K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
            Ron Smith
            Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
            Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
            K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
            Ron Smith
            Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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            • #7
              I would suggest going with the louder mufflers, you can always change
              them later if its too loud, or add resonators on the tailpipes. I plan
              on going with 2-1/2" for my Avanti R1 and the ported heads. If I can
              not find a reasonable mandrel bent option, I will be doing silvertone
              as well, but I was planning on Flowmaster mufflers, maybe Spintech. I
              want it to be loud - but not popping.

              Depending on your personal opinion, you might want a chambered one
              instead of a glasspacked one. I have the glasspacks on the Avanti and
              they are annoying. Karl sent me a video of his twin supercharged
              Avanti idling in the garage. He has Flowmasters.

              Tom

              '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
              '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
              Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
              http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
              I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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              • #8
                I thought I should tell the forum my perpective on the Silvertone exhaust which I purchase from Don Simmons a few months back. I started and finished installing his Stainless Steel Exhaust in just a few hours. I did this a couple of weeks ago on a Friday night. I was really impressed how easily this system installed. I took my Porter Cable sawzall to the existing exhaust and removed it in minutes. I was really happy how easily my Manifold nuts were removed mind you I had been spraying them with WD-40 for a couple of days.
                When I purchased the exhaust system Don asked me what kind of manifold I was using. I told him that I would be using headers on my new R2 engine. A few days later Don personally delivered the system to my door. Months had passed and we talked again at York. Since Don knew that I would be installing my R2 this summer he was kind enough to offer me the standard manifold lead pipes so that I could install the exhaust in my Hawk with the stock engine in it. Again Don delivered the lead out pipes to me!

                I've been driving my Hawk for about a week now and love the sound. I purchased the medium tone muffers and I have to say again they sound absolutely fantastic! Not too loud not too quite either. They have a great rumble when you get the urge to tromp on it. (often) Even the Guys at the local FLAPS love the sound of this car!

                The install went really quick starting at the manifold. I had to remove the emergency brake cable arm to successfully install the drivers side pipe and have to say the bends were perfect. The passenger side was even easier. All the connections for the pipes were done in the exact spot where the exhaust hangers support the pipes from. Don also supplied me with his 3" exhaust tip which I had to polish to a chrome finish. Wow did the shine up nice and those pipes stick out just far enough.

                I highly recommend this easy to install system to who ever is in the market for a new exhaust system!

                Thanks for the great service Don!



                1964 GT Hawk soon to be R2 Clone
                1964 GT Hawk
                PSMCDR 2014
                Best time: 14.473 sec. 96.57 MPH quarter mile
                PSMCDR 2013
                Best time: 14.654 sec. 94.53 MPH quarter

                Victoria, Canada

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                • #9
                  I'm going to need exhaust soon for my 60 Lark wagon V8; can't decide single or duals, whether I want a little tone or quiet; but will be considering Don's stuff when I get ready [8D]

                  Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
                  Parish, central NY 13131
                  http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

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                  • #10
                    Allen..
                    I am using Don's 2 1/4 inch SS and his quiet mufflers on my Daytona...which has a Harbit R-1-2 cam and I always get lots of compliments on how great and 'lumpy' it sounds, and you can still hear the radio most of the time..

                    Too noisy is a pain on the highway as well..

                    Barry.

                    Barry Leppan
                    Burlington, Ont. Canada
                    64 Daytona HT 5-spd
                    64 GT Hawk R-1/AC/Powershift
                    Barry Leppan
                    Ontario, Canada
                    64 Daytona R-1 Convertible & 64 GT Hawk R-1
                    GT Hawk Registry & SDC, Hamilton Chapter [IMG]

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                    • #11
                      I have Don's 2 1/4 SS pipes and quiet tone mufflers with the adapters for the R2 manifolds(in case I go to R3's). I like the burble from the exhaust as well as the very slight metallic chug when I'm cruising. Agree on the noise. Too noisy, particularly on long drives, and you won't be able to hear yourself or your passengers during or at the end of the drive, what with the temporary hearing loss and all. Of course that may not be a completely bad thing for some of us, lol.


                      1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                      1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
                      [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
                      [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
                      [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
                      [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                      1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                      1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                      1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                      1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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                      • #12
                        quote:Originally posted by studebaker-R2-4-me

                        I thought I should tell the forum my perpective on the Silvertone exhaust which I purchase from Don Simmons a few months back....
                        PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!![]

                        quote:Originally posted by hotwheels63r2

                        Anyone with an ear for horsepower can't ignore the lope of an R2 cam.....
                        Strange, I never noticed a "lope" with the R3 reground cam I used in
                        my '60 Hawk. Does an R2 lope and a 276 duration R3 not? I used turbo
                        mufflers on the Hawk with a 2 inch crush-N-bend muffler shop product.
                        For the Avanti, I am tempted to go with Silvertone as well, but it is
                        going to HAVE to be the 2-1/4 inch pipe, since he doesnt mandrel bend!
                        I have been told that his bends are nice, what's on the Avanti now is
                        so terrible, some bends look to have the flow equivalent of 1" pipe![:0]
                        I LOVE Karl's setup ... 3 inch with an X-pipe .... niiiiiiiiice!

                        quote:Originally posted by CHAMP

                        If you really want the Mustang/Camero Guys .......
                        [)]


                        Tom

                        '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
                        '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                        Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                        http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                        I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                        • #13
                          LOL Camero.
                          Whenever I saw that in the YIM chatrooms my response was almost always, "Must be that rare go between model between the Camaro and the Cameo(the Chevy truck to everyone else), prior to the El Camino.


                          1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                          1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
                          [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
                          [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
                          [img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
                          [img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]
                          1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
                          1963 Studebaker Daytona Hardtop with no engine or transmission
                          1950 Studebaker 2R5 w/170 six cylinder and 3spd OD
                          1955 Studebaker Commander Hardtop w/289 and 3spd OD and Megasquirt port fuel injection(among other things)

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                          • #14
                            Sorry Champ .. I HAD to do that, I know its an older post, but I did
                            that picture for a Mustang forum I am on, and felt the need to add it
                            over here too (its JUST that good).

                            Tom

                            quote:Originally posted by PlainBrownR2
                            model between the Camaro and the Cameo(the Chevy truck to everyone else), prior to the El Camino.
                            '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
                            Check out my disc brake adapters to install 1994-2004 Mustang disc brakes on your Studebaker!!
                            http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...bracket-update
                            I have also written many TECH how to articles, do a search for my Forum name to find them

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                            • #15
                              No problem Tom. I liked it!

                              GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

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