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  • K-body CASO Power Windows

    A while back a few of us on the forum were discussing how to add power windows to a K-body Stude.

    The best suggestions were to either use the custom made units that are designed to fit the existing windows, minus the manual gear, or to add the type that have an adapter to power the existing manual crank assembly by driving the original crank shaft.

    The custom units look great but being a CASO, I thought I'd try to do it cheaper.

    The type that drive the original crank struck me as having a weak point in the plastic adapter that accepts the drive.

    I first looked at the less expensive generic after market units that replace the mechanical drive.

    The problem with these units is the shallow depth of the K-body doors. The lift required (14+ inches) did not allow the motor to locate below the lift. The after market units that have the motor off to the side did not have enough lift. These units are also pricey if you want to buy quality units.

    After cruising the wrecking yards and lurking on Ebay, I finally found a unit that appeared to be a possibility.

    They are a circa 1995 Mazda 626 front door power lift as shown below. The only modification necessary was the track had a slight curve which was easily removed by just using the vise jaws and some gentle persuation. The drive cable tension did not change, the tension system must be designed to take up small changes.




    VIEWER ALERT!!!!! Some Studebaker sheet metal was sacrificed during this install.

    This is the unit installed in the door before the replacement panels were installed and final fitting was done.



    The motor is just thin enough to mount to the door in this position and let the window pass.



    The track mounting was trial and error by attaching the unit to the window frame and fitting in the door. It took several minor adjustments to get the track positioned at the top and bottom of the travel. But this is what I ended up with.



    The final attachment may not be pretty but the window move smoothly in both directions.



    This is how the final install looks now. I'll add more cover plates when I get to finishing the door and clean up some of the other loose ends.



    Hope this will help anyone else that would like to attempt this modification.

    I have less that $60 in the total install for both doors. Of course the drives and motors are from Ebay and the rest is under $15 in sheet metal and bolts. Just a note-The drives use #8 metric bolts.

    I'd like anyone that has any suggestions on improvements speak up. Please!

    Bob






  • #2
    Looks reet sweet from here, Bob - I like your style.

    Now on, to the Holy Grail: power REAR QUARTER windows on a K Body.

    BTW: has anybody fitted C-body or Avanti q-windows with power yet? My minivan has power power rear-quarter pop-outs and the mechanism looks similarly adaptable.

    Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
    In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
    If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

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    • #3
      Nice work, Bob! And nice photos, too.

      That's the real hotrodder spirit, making something else FIT to do what YOU want it to do. And it jibes with the CASO spirit, too.

      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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      • #4
        Now that I have seen it, I wonder if I can adapt it to my 62 Lark Hardtop?

        I would also like to see what can be done with the rear quarter windows too, albeit on a Lark hardtop.

        Since I am going to take my hardtops doors off for some long overdue repair on the cars body, a stop at the local salvage yard for some Mazda parts will not break the bank.

        To paraphrase my old HS principal when someone did good...

        "Another SDC job well done"

        Jeff T.

        "I'm getting nowhere as fast as I can"
        The Replacements.
        \"I\'m getting nowhere as fast as I can\"
        The Replacements.

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        • #5
          The ingenuity displayed by members of this forum never ceases to amaze. Thanks for sharing!

          Andy
          62 GT

          Andy
          62 GT

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          • #6
            I think C-body would use the same setup? Power rear pop-outs would be sweet; it's hard enough to reach the left rear from the driver's seat. If you're out and about and caught in a rainstorm, you have to pull over to shut those rear quarter windows. I tell you...owning a C-body Studebaker is a real burden.[V][)]

            Brad Johnson
            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
            '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight
            Brad Johnson,
            SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
            '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
            '56 Sky Hawk in process

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            • #7
              You done yourself real proud. jimmijim
              sigpicAnything worth doing deserves your best shot. Do it right the first time. When you're done you will know it. { I'm just the guy who thinks he knows everything, my buddy is the guy who knows everything.} cheers jimmijim*****SDC***** member

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              • #8
                Nice "how to", Bob [^]

                Dick Steinkamp
                Bellingham, WA

                Dick Steinkamp
                Bellingham, WA

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                • #9
                  One of the South GA members has power windows in the front AND back of his '53 Starliner. Pretty slick.

                  Matthew Burnette
                  Hazlehurst, GA

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by mbstude

                    One of the South GA members has power windows in the front AND back of his '53 Starliner. Pretty slick.
                    Any chance you could get him to post, or let you post, some info and/or pics? I've always wondered how to go about finessing that last "unh" torque moment that pops the K quarter into place to seal against the door windows. Seems we've talked about this before, but can't remember seeing any definitive suggestion.

                    Mahalo


                    Keoni Dibelka / HiloFoto
                    In Hawai'i; on Hawai'i; on the Windward Side
                    If da salt air never chew 'em up bumbye da lava will...

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                    • #11
                      That looks great. Can you post pics of where the door can be cut as a minimum?

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                      • #12
                        Keoni

                        Matt put me in touch with his friend in Georgia and as I remember (Don't forget, I've got CRS) his son had rigged the 53 with the drive units that adapt in place of the crank handle and he was less than satisfied with the rear setup.

                        I have toyed with adapting a gear drive setup to my rear windows and have a couple of ideas. I just don't want to sacrifice the only set I have.

                        If some member has a set of rear K-body regulators they would like to part with for a reasonable price, I'll try to modify them. They DO NOT need to be in good shape.

                        Buddy

                        I'm a little ashamed of the amount of metal I took out of the door but I had several approaches I was attempting. The Mazda units could be installed with less metal removal.

                        If you look at the full picture of the door, you will see three holes below the cut area where the motor is installed. That was the original location and seemed work OK. The cables got a little to close to the track but they could be restrained. I just took the old crank area out because I have a junk door with good metal on the inside that will go with the car if it changes hands after my ownership.

                        The only real metal that would need to be opened is where the upper support bracket is located. Because the mounts are below the surface area of the door, that section could be replaced. If one paid close attention during the install I think the metal removed could be returned and the door be close to normal.

                        The connections to the window could be done through the original access hole. A bit fiddly but possible,

                        Bob

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                        • #13
                          Since Studebaker offered power windows on both six and 12 volt K bodies, that to me is the simplist way (after you locate the units). My '57 Golden Hawk had power windows and power seat. A friend of mine owned two '55 Speedsters with power windows at the same time.
                          The solution posted above does look like a good and inexpensive way to get pw.

                          Gary L.
                          Wappinger, NY

                          SDC member since 1968
                          Studebaker enthusiast much longer
                          Gary L.
                          Wappinger, NY

                          SDC member since 1968
                          Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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