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Parts swapping for auto 1st gear start

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  • Parts swapping for auto 1st gear start

    Since I cannot do much work on my lark at present since it is on blocks on the other side of town... I am thinking out loud if you will on some things I have considered doing to my lark during the process of better restoring and modifing the old girl

    I was going through my stack of old Turning wheels the other day and came across a few letters in the Co-opperator section on building a V8 automatic transmission with first gear start. The suggested method mentioned was to take a 61/62 six automatic and replace the drums and clutches with V8 and HD flightomatic parts.

    Has anyone out there actually done this... I have a spare 62 six automatic and a 66 V8 auto. What specific parts are needed to beef up the 62 six auto or is it as simple as taking the drums and clutches from the 66 auto and installing them in the 62.

    Just wondering, I have a 259 coming and I am trying to decide on transmissions. I would like a 4 speed manual but in the off chance the my wife "might" need to dive the lark in an emergency...the only stick shift that she knows how to drive is an International tractor.

    Jeff T

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    I think all you'll need to do is swap valve body from six trans into V8 trans. It's pretty simple swap. I'm sure I could be wrong, we've done it in the past and worked. As you may know, first gear is there and is the "L". I wish ya well.
    Kim

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    • #3
      SASCO has the V8 first gear start valve bodies that is a one part swap.


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      • #4
        You can not just bolt in a 6cyl trans valve body. It's not that simple.
        You can buy one of the sure enough V8 trans 1st gear start valve bodies as JDP suggests or you CAN change some springs in your existing valve body and have it work. See some of the recent posts here by Rosstude.
        Some folks I've talked to claim they've had to swap out the governor to keep 1st gear from upshifting too quick. Others say it's not a problem. This MAY be because they were dealing with different editions of the Flight-o-matic. It's NOT just as simple as there's a V8 trans and a 6cyl trans. There's numerous variants out there with subtle differences that could work for or against the valve body change.

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        1960 Larkvertible V8
        1958 Provincial wagon
        1953 Commander coupe

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          • #6
            Ross, you bring up a good point - WHY did engineering change the FOM to second gear start after about the first 20,000 of them went into the '56 V8 cars??? This after they'd changed the predecessor DG transmission to first gear start starting in 1954. Why did they GO to 1st gear start and why did they change back - in mid-run no less!???

            Miscreant adrift in
            the BerStuda Triangle


            1957 Transtar 1/2ton
            1960 Larkvertible V8
            1958 Provincial wagon
            1953 Commander coupe

            No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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              Ross.
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              1957 Provincial X2
              1958 Transtar

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              • #8
                Ross, I have it on good authority (SDC Tech consultant for the FOM trannies - John Metzker) that the 6cyl valve body is a no-go in a V8 trans. This from a guy who still builds auto transes to this day. Of course, John COULD BE wrong, but I'm not gonna try to prove that to be so. FACT IS, I've had a valve body I took out of a 62 6cyl Lark some time back, but I never tried it because I consulted with John first. I figured if he didn't know - no one would.
                John lives down your way. Very nice fellow who'll let youpick his brain about the ins and outs of Flight-o-matics as much as you want. Just be prepared to get answers that are WAY over your head.[B)]

                Miscreant adrift in
                the BerStuda Triangle


                1957 Transtar 1/2ton
                1960 Larkvertible V8
                1958 Provincial wagon
                1953 Commander coupe

                No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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                • #9
                  I am already in over my head[:I]

                  Ross.
                  Riverside, Ca.
                  1957 Provincial X2
                  1958 Transtar
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