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Rear leaf springs for a Hawk

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  • Rear leaf springs for a Hawk

    My '64 Hawk needs a new set of leaf springs. I really don't think rearching them is the answer. Anyone have a good source for new ones?

    Thanks

    Dan White
    64 R1 GT
    64 R2 GT
    Dan White
    64 R1 GT
    64 R2 GT
    58 C Cab
    57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

  • #2
    SASCO has been trying to restock for over a year, but his price quotes are double his old cost.


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    • #3
      Get 'em right from the source, and in a reasonable amount of time~ Detroit Eaton makes them.
      I got a set for my '57 Commander, and they (along with new front springs from 'somewhere else') make the car so much better to ride in!!! [^]



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      • #4
        Eaton is the source of the higher SASCO price quotes. I was selling the SASCO springs for $220 pair, Eaton gets much more now. SASCO can get a better deal by buying a few 100 sets, but I agree that paying more if you need them now may be his only choice.


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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by Dan White

          My '64 Hawk needs a new set of leaf springs. I really don't think rearching them is the answer. Anyone have a good source for new ones?

          Thanks

          Dan White
          64 R1 GT
          64 R2 GT
          You might consider just adding a leaf to the existing springs. I just took my '95 Dodge Ram 2500 to a spring shop near me and they added one leaf on each side plus new plates and u-bolts- $312
          total.

          [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

          Paul Johnson
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          • #6
            Thought about the extra spring but decided to go with Eaton. I ordered the Hawk HD springs which were standard on the R series, same price as the regular springs, $429, ouch!

            Dan White
            64 R1 GT
            64 R2 GT
            Dan White
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            • #7
              While Dan has already made his choice, there is a local spring shop here in Richmond that has done work for me and has been in business for almost 100 years. I figure that if they could build an equalizer spring set my bulldozer that a car shouldn't be a problem!


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              • #8
                There's a shop in Altoona, Pa called Penn Public. They have patterns and can make the Hawk Springs. I don't know what the current price would be. And, as Gary opined, if they can make them for a Greyhound bus...

                Brad Johnson
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                • #9
                  quote:Originally posted by 53k
                  You might consider just adding a leaf to the existing springs. I just took my '95 Dodge Ram 2500 to a spring shop near me and they added one leaf on each side plus new plates and u-bolts- $312
                  total.
                  Paul Johnson
                  I have done that, and so has Ray F. at Ray-Lin Restoration.

                  On my '54 Champion 4-door sedan, I didn't like the 'rear lower than the front' attitude, so I added two (!!) leaves to each side. One between the original main leaf and the second leaf, and another between the original second leaf and original third leaf. This proved to be more than slightly too stiff......and too high in the back, looked like a moonshiner's car! But boy did it handle good with the HD gas shocks, radial tires, President rear sway bar, and '62 V8 front sway bar.<G>

                  I ended up pulling out the leaf that had been added between the original second and third leaves. That brought it down some, and it is not as rough riding. It did impact the handling slightly, a little more roll in the back.

                  Anyway, this is a cheap way to get some extra height and/or stiffness. You need to have some extra spring leaves to do this, and plan on replacing the bushings at the same time. You will need new spring clips and center bolt, and possibly new U-bolts if they don't have extra length on them. I also replaced the spring liner, since it was in VERY bad shape. The spring liner is kind of pricey, however, I think $1.50 per foot.

                  Pics of what I did to the springs on my Champion are here: http://racingstudebakers.com/copperm...lbum=83&pos=56
                  There are about 26 pics of the springs (you can't take too many pics<G&gt so keep hitting the forward arrow.

                  Paul

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                  • #10
                    Studebaker International has a spring liner kit for $29.95
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