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  • Body / Glass: advice wanted '52 Commander Hardtop window regulator adjustments

    I have been pulling my hair out trying to get the passenger side roll up window to be level with the body so it seals at the top. Whatever I have tried to do has not been fruitful. When the window is all the way up it slopes down 1/2" from the vent widow rearwards to where it meets the quarter window. There is also no way to adjust the fit by tilting the vent widow frame that also serves as the front track as it lines up with the A pillar like it should. The door gaps are satisfactorily as well.I don't get stumped often but this has beat me to death trying to figure it out. I have a 1951 shop manual but it does not have a body section, if it did I could use the instructions for a convertible since those should be the same. As far as I have been able to find there is no such thing as a body repair manual that covers 1952 or any other prior year convertible, since the window layout would be the same as a hardtop, that would en-lighting me. Thanks!
    Last edited by 41 Frank; 05-09-2021, 11:35 AM.
    Frank van Doorn
    Omaha, Ne.
    1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
    1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
    1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

  • #2
    Usually there are two arms off the main mounting bracket. One is attached to the main moon gear. The other attaches to a pivot shoulder bolt . That should be a slotted hole where it attaches. That adjusts the tilt.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
      Usually there are two arms off the main mounting bracket. One is attached to the main moon gear. The other attaches to a pivot shoulder bolt . That should be a slotted hole where it attaches. That adjusts the tilt.
      Before I quit working on it yesterday I finally figured out that this had to be where the adjustment was made, Brad. Problem is that when I loosen the nut and try to move the shoulder bolt it won't move. I can see it is slotted. I have soaked it in PB Blaster and will try again later. I think I may have to grab a hold of the arm inside the door and adjust it that way. Thanks Brad!
      Last edited by 41 Frank; 05-09-2021, 03:25 PM.
      Frank van Doorn
      Omaha, Ne.
      1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
      1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
      1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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      • #4
        I'm not quite sure what is going on without pictures. But my 56 P-Hawk has an arm with two pins. One of my arms was bent. Perhaps yours is too? See picture. The arm is noted with red arrow. Blue arrow is not the arm.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rafe Hollister View Post
          I'm not quite sure what is going on without pictures. But my 56 P-Hawk has an arm with two pins. One of my arms was bent. Perhaps yours is too? See picture. The arm is noted with red arrow. Blue arrow is not the arm.

          "I used to procrastinate a lot. But I don't even get around to that anymore." Abraham Lincoln
          Thanks, I will check on that as well.
          Frank van Doorn
          Omaha, Ne.
          1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
          1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
          1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 41 Frank View Post
            I have a 1951 shop manual but it does not have a body section, if it did I could use the instructions for a convertible since those should be the same. As far as I have been able to find there is no such thing as a body repair manual that covers 1952 or any other prior year convertible, since the window layout would be the same as a hardtop, that would en-lighting me. Thanks!
            My '51 Shop Manual does have a Body Section (first section of the book).
            As well, at the very back is a supplement section that covers the '52 models that should also apply to the convertibles and hardtop door windows.

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            Brad Johnson,
            SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
            Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
            '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
            '56 Sky Hawk in process

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            • #7
              Sadly the manual isn't very descriptive. Here are images of the paragraph and figure.
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              • #8
                Service Bulletin 266, Aug. '52, has 12 pages on the '52 hardtop covering glass and body adjustments, dust and water leaks.
                Just happens to be one on feebay right now (not mine).
                https://www.ebay.com/itm/38293787934...QAAOSwC8ZcwbrU

                https://www.ebay.com/itm/321370057500?hash=item4ad325eb1c:g:~OEAAOxyTMdTPao1
                (this one)
                D 'N Q RACE ENGINES

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                • #9
                  If I remember right, the pivot shoulder bolt has a flat on it where it goes through the slot. It can twist, and cock so it stick in the slot, often you can ease the adjustment by grabbing the top of the bolt and twisting it slightly.
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                  • #10
                    This is all very helpful, thanks guys. I will get back to the problem in a couple of days. Will check back in when I correct the problem. Stay tuned.
                    Frank van Doorn
                    Omaha, Ne.
                    1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
                    1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
                    1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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                    • #11
                      I found some time (3 hours) to work on the window today and once again tried to move bolt #9 shown in figure 10, post #6. After much tugging, prying and pulling it finally moved to the end of the slot which was only about 1/4 of an inch but not until I loosened the vent window frame first. The window is now within 1/8th of being level, not perfect, but OK. In order to level it more the slot would have to be elongated so the bolt and its attached regulator arm can move a little more. The fact that I see evidence that this window has been messed with in the past leads me to believe that I should just be satisfied with it the way it is. Thanks for every ones contributions, they were very helpful.
                      Frank van Doorn
                      Omaha, Ne.
                      1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
                      1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
                      1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD

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