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  • jackb
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    I'm finding selecting 1st gear ("L") in my 3.07 R/A has improved start with any upgrade...

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  • StudeRich
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    Originally posted by 1inxs View Post
    I often do exactly that with the exception of putting my foot into it hard.
    Just do NOT do that below about 35 MPH, you do NOT want it to go into Low Gear instead of 2nd. when you shift to "L".
    And you NEED your foot "in it" SOME to continue accelerating.

    The whole idea is to "Get Going", not to drive like a Grandma, if you want to "Putt" just leave it in Drive!

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  • 1inxs
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    Originally posted by Cus63 View Post
    Hello, can you select L on a Flightomatic when not stopped, say take off in 2nd & shift into L, then D? Regards, Cus
    I often do exactly that with the exception of putting my foot into it hard.

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  • Cus63
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    it's a 61 Hawk, Australian delivered with all correct linkages & cable, question is "did the 63 Gt's have under hood filler/dipsticks?"

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  • StudeRich
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    So can you put the Pan, Dipstick and Tube in your Car, or is it a RHD and won't Fit?

    So you are installing a '63 Hawk Trans. in WHAT?
    I don't believe we EVER knew just what this "Car" is.
    What occurred to me is; it matters if this Car is RHD or LHD, none of the Shift Linkage interchanges, didn't they use Cables or something to Shift the RHD Cars?

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  • Cus63
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    Yes, I owned a 63 Lark & cruised many trouble free miles in it, one thing is with this Flightomatic it has the under floor filler as per my previous trans, it apparently
    came out of an Australian delivered '63 Gt, but my '63 Lark had an under hood filler dipstick,

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  • Hallabutt
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    Marcus,

    Sorry to read about your problem, however I really commend you for sticking with the Flightomatic. This trans was not an industry outlier. It was in fact a staple for the industry for a generation. It's reliability and flexibility is noteworthy. I have nothing against the transmissions that are often touted as replacements for the Flightomatic, but really making the swap seems to be a little nonsensical. I've driven cars with this trans for hundreds of thousands of miles, without any problems. I wish that I could say the same of the more "modern" transmissions that I use regularly today.

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  • Cus63
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    Ok, good advice, will do,

    regards, Cus

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  • StudeRich
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    OK, that is good News that you found a "Better" Shop!

    However you will need to use a LOT of Caution here when the "Internals" of the Trans. are done.
    I would bet that there are NO Automatic Trans. Shops "ON the Planet" that actually know how to properly Set Up a Flight-O-Matic throttle Linkage and Trans. Throttle Pressure!

    You will need to give Him the Shop Manual and page mark the FUEL Section where it describes how to properly adjust the Throttle linkage FIRST.

    Then mark the Transmission Throttle PRESSURE Adjustment Page that explains that you need a Tachometer, a 0 to 150 to 200 Lb. Pressure Gauge to set the RPM, and through the "Test Port" at the Left Front of the Trans. Case read the Pressure to adjust the Linkage for proper Shift Points and Running Pressure.

    This Post is valuable info for All Automatic Trans. Studebaker Owners.
    It is even more important lately, since SO many of us are installing New Edelbrock 4 Barrel AFB Clone Carb's. which COULD disturb the Throttle Linkage adjustment which WILL affect the Trans. Throttle PRESSURE Adjustment.

    It goes without saying, that if you ignore this, you will have MISSED the actual Cause of your Complete Rebuild being needed, and History WILL repeat itself!
    Last edited by StudeRich; 04-30-2021, 01:16 PM.

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  • Cus63
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    Bit of an update on the trans, dropped the pan & bad news, oil looked like metallic red paint, looks like both the clutches crapped themselves. Poor workmanship on the transmission place that did the inspection & service, after sitting around for 30 years, they should of delved deeper. So I purchased a trans from a 63 Hawk that had done around 60 k miles, & the torque converter, found a shop that cares & know what they are doing, full rebuild & split & clean the torque converter, when it’s ready I’m getting them to do the transplant & I’ll just keep the other for spares or whatever, very frustrating, but I guess better now than miles from home & bang, getting hard to find good workshops these days!

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  • StudeRich
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    Originally posted by Cus63 View Post

    Has anybody had that happen before?
    Yes, if you referring to the Two Gears at once. Taking off in Drive and got up to the shift point about 30-35 and BANG! the wheels locked and skidded to a stop, it was in Low and Second at the same time!

    BUT this did not happen to a previously running fine Trans. it was a '57 GH with that Valve Body that you can assemble the Shift Valve with the spring on one end for 2nd. Gear Start, and on the OTHER end for low Gear Start and freshly Rebuilt.

    Our SDC friend in Portland OR who did the Rebuild had put non-compatible Year Parts in, I wish I could remember What.
    Anyway he drove all the way up here 282 Miles one way, and replaced the wrong Parts and all was good with the Low Gear Start Conversion then.

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  • Lark Hunter
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    ^ I have not had it happen to me, but do know that it's symptomatic of a transmission trying to select two gears at once. Reasons for that could be something stuck or broken in the valve body; same same with servos, bands, clutches.

    Also could be hard parts that have broken and are jamming the works up. Here's to hoping that it's just a valve body issue...

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  • Cus63
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    Originally posted by Cus63 View Post
    Thanks Ron, sounds like it could be something like that, when I select reverse, it's like it binds up & engine will stall, kind of like having the park brake on, but axles are free spinning,
    car is jacked up etc.
    Has anybody had that happen before?

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  • mw2013
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    Originally posted by PackardV8 View Post

    Agree, Rich. I've manually shifted any and every automatic I've owned for sixty years. The only casualty was the Packard Ultramatic, but those die early and often whatever the use. The Borg-Warners have been pretty bulletproof.

    jack vines
    good to hear F-O-Matics and take a thrashing and no delicate, they did that one right

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  • PackardV8
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    Originally posted by StudeRich View Post

    Clark, you don't want to come up against me at the Drags, it'll be: BYE, Bye!

    Low, Drive, Low, Drive and GONE! Got the "I Stock" Automatic, Formula 7 Trophy to prove it!
    Agree, Rich. I've manually shifted any and every automatic I've owned for sixty years. The only casualty was the Packard Ultramatic, but those die early and often whatever the use. The Borg-Warners have been pretty bulletproof.

    jack vines

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