I have this electrical question, 6 volt 6 cylinder 54, the starter relay is mounted on the starter motor and is actuated by grounding the small terminal and therefore a very light wire is required to ground this terminal. My question is, the ground switch under the clutch pedal is a very substantial switch that is only required to ground the starter relay. Why is the switch so robust when a simple push button will do the same job? It looks like the switch is capable of operating the starter by itself. I have wired a relay mounted on the inner fender to operate my starter and it is actuated with a small wire and small push button.
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Originally posted by altair View PostWhy is the switch so robust when a simple push button will do the same job?
Brad Johnson,
SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
'56 Sky Hawk in process
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I understand the concept of the safety neutral clutch, my question is "why is the switch so robust" when a simple push button will do the same job? I know that these relays were wired differently in later years to reduce the frequency of thefts, all you needed was an alligator clip from the battery to the coil and a screwdriver to ground the small post and you were on your way.
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I'm going to guess that it's a remnant from earlier days, perhaps when or if they did run full starter current through the switch (though it doesn't look *quite* beefy enough for that). On a 1954 car with automatic trans, they just used a momentary toggle switch on the dash, which is only suited to solenoid pull-in coil duty.
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Maybe due the Big metal heavy Clutch Pedal pounding it with a Foot it needed to be able to take some punishment.
Could a plastic plunger type stop light switch used for starting, TAKE that?
But I do believe it is a very similar switch to the earlier ones that actually MADE the connection from the Battery Cable to the Starter, and it could be as you say a bit of a carryover, if it ain't broke, don't change it!StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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I was looking at an earlier wiring diagram and the starter was wired through that switch. I don't know what model or make I just requested 1930 Studebaker but anything can come up. On this diagram NEG is ground. The switch looks too robust for the purpose intended, however it appears somewhat undersize for a direct starter switch.1 Photo
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I could not make the stupid system work, so I bought a replacement switch and that did not work either. So I went to the hardware store, bought an inexpensive momentary switch, mounted it unobtrusively , and now the starter engages. You must admit that this is a really stupid bit of "engineering"
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