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  • Frame / Springs: Convertible X Frame

    I'm wondering if anyone has a bare convertible frame (or Avanti) with the 'X' brace. I would like some clear pictures of how the x-frame attaches to the outer rails. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Tom - Bradenton, FL

    1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
    1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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    Your lucky day. This is Avanti frame. Let me know if you need more pix. Click image for larger version

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    78 Avanti RQB 2792
    64 Avanti R1 R5408
    63 Avanti R1 R4551
    63 Avanti R1 R2281
    62 GT Hawk V15949
    56 GH 6032504
    56 GH 6032588
    55 Speedster 7160047
    55 Speedster 7165279

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    • #3
      Click image for larger version

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ID:	1867373 Here are a couple more. May show better since not so shiny. Click image for larger version

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      78 Avanti RQB 2792
      64 Avanti R1 R5408
      63 Avanti R1 R4551
      63 Avanti R1 R2281
      62 GT Hawk V15949
      56 GH 6032504
      56 GH 6032588
      55 Speedster 7160047
      55 Speedster 7165279

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      • #4
        what is the weight penalty to with the extra metal? 100 lbs?

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        • #5
          Henry, the more pictures the better. I've never seen the center section in person.
          Tom - Bradenton, FL

          1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
          1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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          • #6
            I will get more when I go to the shop in the morning.
            78 Avanti RQB 2792
            64 Avanti R1 R5408
            63 Avanti R1 R4551
            63 Avanti R1 R2281
            62 GT Hawk V15949
            56 GH 6032504
            56 GH 6032588
            55 Speedster 7160047
            55 Speedster 7165279

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            • #7
              Thank you!
              Tom - Bradenton, FL

              1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2514.10)
              1964 Studebaker Commander - 170 1V, 3-Speed w/OD

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              • #8
                Sorry for the delay. Wife decided we needed to take grand kids to Busch Gardens yesterday.

                Anyhow, here are some more pictures. The front of the X member sits on top of the frame and is welded. The rear of the member is welded to plates that have been welded onto the inside of the frame. Both the front and rear bottom of the member is welded flush with the frame. Click image for larger version

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                78 Avanti RQB 2792
                64 Avanti R1 R5408
                63 Avanti R1 R4551
                63 Avanti R1 R2281
                62 GT Hawk V15949
                56 GH 6032504
                56 GH 6032588
                55 Speedster 7160047
                55 Speedster 7165279

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                • #9
                  64studeavanti, Double thanks for the frame X pics. I have an ulterior motive and it revolves around the X u shaped support part, I suspect it is one of the reasons nobody has an Avanti with the overdrive option (Gear Vendors would be my choice). Anyone been down this dead end before? THX Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089

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                  • #10
                    Has anyone butchered a stock Avanti X member to make fit what wouldn’t? Of course.
                    The results are seldom desirable. Building a custom fitted X member for a J8 frame would be a better course., saving the Avanti frame for a Avanti. IMHO.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by firestoper 25 View Post
                      64studeavanti, Double thanks for the frame X pics. I have an ulterior motive and it revolves around the X u shaped support part, I suspect it is one of the reasons nobody has an Avanti with the overdrive option (Gear Vendors would be my choice). Anyone been down this dead end before? THX Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089
                      I'd probably just go to a 6-speed T-56 as it fits the existing X-member and while it's a direct bolt-in on the SBC, I'll bet the conversion to an Stude V8 would be less expensive than the GV overdrive. Once the trans is adapted to the engine you can use an hydraulic TO bearing and the shifter comes up the floor in the OEM position.

                      My 74 with a T56

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                      • #12
                        Ref; Post # 10

                        Gee whiz Jessie.... go easy on me....I'm just a poor old UPP'ER who is a retired engineer / machinist / auto-nut with many successful strange conversions behind me. I am just exploring what others have done with what results....good or other wise. I do not like breaking a leg in the same rabbit hole so to speak that they have. Lets try not to start the UPP'ER / troll feud over this......

                        Ref; Post # 11

                        Yup, you are right (that's what I have in my Jeep), however I have many decades with British & German sports cars hence the longing for the add on electric O' drive (with the shift stick switch control). Once you have them in your blood they are hard to forget ( oh the control / fun / instant gratification ! ). My side project ( 63R1089 comes first ) is a 1962 Austin Healey (do not worry post # 11... it is all from cast down , to badly pranged, etc. junk materials that I am saving from the crusher) with a 413 Chrysler marine / Super T-10 / Gear Vendors and so on. The one I made in high school was with a 361 / 3 speed - O'drive. It lasted during a couple years of college BUT was used to pay for more college. Every now and then I get a call from folks around CMU in the Mt. Pleasant area. I guess my car NEVER graduated !!

                        So back to Avanti 4 speed O'drive?? Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by firestoper 25 View Post
                          It lasted during a couple years of college BUT was used to pay for more college. Every now and then I get a call from folks around CMU in the Mt. Pleasant area. I guess my car NEVER graduated !!

                          So back to Avanti 4 speed O'drive?? Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089
                          Just for grins, were you at CMU and if so what timeframe? I was there in 1963 and still live 40 miles east. Worked for 34 years 20 miles east of Mt Pleasant.

                          Bob

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                          • #14
                            I have an ulterior motive and it revolves around the X u shaped support part, I suspect it is one of the reasons nobody has an Avanti with the overdrive option (Gear Vendors would be my choice). Anyone been down this dead end before? THX Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089
                            Our friend Alan just pulled a TH400/Gear Vendors unit out of his Avanti, so he might be able to show us what the PO did to make it fit in there.

                            jack vines
                            PackardV8

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                            • #15
                              Oh Jack my blood is greatly warmed by your lead! Could I dare hope we may have a trail to follow? This would be one of the best ways to pass the upcoming loooong winter. Planning future Avanti mischief is a fine cold weather hobby operation. Sherm / Green Bay / 63R1089

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