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  • Transmission / Overdrive: Noises??

    1964 Studebaker Daytona 289 mated to a 1952 automatic transmission.
    What sound would the motor and transmission make if the transmission was not dialed into the bell housing properly or at all? I have a hunch that the gentleman that installed my motor and trans did not really do the proper work that I paid him for. This was about 2 1/2 years ago, that I got the car back from him, and I have only had about 3 or 4 hours every other weekend to work on it. But now I'm hearing things...

  • #2
    Are you hearing some clanging/banging/clicking idling in neutral?
    RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

    17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
    10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
    10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
    4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
    5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
    56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
    60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RadioRoy View Post
      Are you hearing some clanging/banging/clicking idling in neutral?
      Yessir I am. That is the noise I'm hearing.

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      • #4
        Sounds like a cracked flex plate to me. That could certainly be caused by not dialing in the bell housing.
        RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

        17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
        10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
        10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
        4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
        5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
        56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
        60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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        • #5
          Is the noise at idle, or when revving the engine?

          With the DG automatics, revving the engine while not in gear is a bad idea. If I remember right, it’s something to do with the torque converter trying to lock up.

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          • #6
            That could just be the One way Clutch in the Lockup Torque Converter failing, as Matt said.

            That certainly IS a FIRST... a '64 Daytona 289 with a DG Detroit Gear/Studebaker Automatic Drive!

            Is it a 1955 DG-250M with Low Gear Start?
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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            • #7
              That's not a "first."

              I put a 63 Cruiser 289 in my 1954 Commander wagon with the original 1954 DG Automatic Drive transmission when I built the car in 1992 or 1991.

              It works just fine - as fine as it ever did.

              But I am not a "spirited" driver, either.
              Last edited by RadioRoy; 10-18-2020, 03:22 PM.
              RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

              17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
              10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
              10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
              4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
              5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
              56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
              60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mbstude View Post
                Is the noise at idle, or when revving the engine?

                With the DG automatics, revving the engine while not in gear is a bad idea. If I remember right, it’s something to do with the torque converter trying to lock up.
                Noise is at idle. I did find my fluid level was really low, so I'm going to clean, drain and fill this weekend

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StudeRich View Post

                  Is it a 1955 DG-250M with Low Gear Start?
                  It is the 1952 DG-200...

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                  • #10
                    If it is more of a Humming/Rattling Sound, it would be Low Fluid and or Throttle Pressure out of Adjustment.

                    In a '64 Body and with a '64 Engine, the Throttle Pressure Linkage is certainly suspect, as to 1952 Trans. Compatibility.

                    Be sure to Check it at a LOW Idle and In Low Gear, any other way gets serious Splash and an incorrect reading.

                    Also remember that there is a Converter Drain Plug, usually actually two.
                    Last edited by StudeRich; 10-18-2020, 05:56 PM.
                    StudeRich
                    Second Generation Stude Driver,
                    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                      That could just be the One way Clutch in the Lockup Torque Converter failing, as Matt said.

                      That certainly IS a FIRST... a '64 Daytona 289 with a DG Detroit Gear/Studebaker Automatic Drive!

                      Is it a 1955 DG-250M with Low Gear Start?
                      Not a first. Years ago I put 259/289 in front of DG automatics, including a S/C 289. I did prefer to use the DG250M.
                      Gary L.
                      Wappinger, NY

                      SDC member since 1968
                      Studebaker enthusiast much longer

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