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  • Engine: Need number for oil filter

    Some body brought me a 58 Packard to work on. It has a 63 engine in it with a crossover pipe. I need the number for the half size spin on oil filter.
    Thanks
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    Claude Chmielewski
    Studeski
    http://www.studeski.com
    Fillmore, Wisconsin
    47 M-16 Truck
    53 Commander Regal HT
    53 2R5
    60 Lark VIII Convertible
    60 5E7 Champ pickup
    62 5E7 Champ no box
    62 GT Hawk 4 speed
    63 Lark VI parts car
    63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
    64 Commander Wagonaire
    64 Daytona Convertible
    50 Champion Regal (parts car)
    36 Dictator
    36 Dictator in pieces

  • #2
    I believe that's a PF-24 ? Same as Avanti isn't it?

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    • #3
      Same as Cadillacs of the mid 1960's but I believe that is full size and what I always used on the Avanti back in the day and is readily available nowadays...

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      • #4
        Napa # 1049

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        • #5
          Originally posted by studeski View Post
          Some body brought me a 58 Packard to work on. It has a 63 engine in it with a crossover pipe. I need the number for the half size spin on oil filter.
          Thanks
          Here's a link crossing the AC PF24 to other filter brands. The PF24 looks like it may work, but I don't know for sure. I use it on my '65 Riviera.

          https://www.oilfilter-crossreference.../AC-Delco/PF24

          Here's some pictures of the PF24. It is the later and current, shorter filter:

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          • #6
            NAPA Gold (made by Wix) FIL 1049 is the better full size (1 Qt.) Filter. (WOW! these have gone up to $15.49!! )
            But I see that you need the extra clearance for the wrong Single Exhaust System not designed for a Full Flow Filter.

            I looked up a 1968 Buick Skylark with 350 c.i.d. Engine and got what I am pretty sure will work.

            FIL 1258 NAPA GOLD for $7.99 where I live, OR the NAPA "Pro Select" SFI 21258 for $4.99 here. They are 4 3/8 Inches Height vs 5.178 Inches for the 1049.

            This is definitely not a "Stock" Packard as it SHOULD have Dual Exhausts.
            I would NEVER Run a 1258 or the same PF24 on a Stock Stude. when you CAN run the Correct and Best one.
            Last edited by StudeRich; 04-12-2020, 12:50 PM.
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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            • #7
              Wix was purchased by Mann&Hummel a few years ago (a huge German filter company).
              Wix private labels NAPA's filters.
              Prices have a way of creeping after the sale of a company.


              Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
              NAPA Gold (made by Wix) FIL 1049 is the better full size (1 Qt.) Filter. (WOW! these have gone up to $15.49!! )
              <snip>(
              HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

              Jeff


              Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



              Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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              • #8
                Save money here....

                https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...il+filter,5340

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                • #9
                  Wow! This thread quickly turned into a confusing mass of overwhelming "maybe" options!
                  John Clary
                  Greer, SC

                  SDC member since 1975

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                  • #10
                    I think where we got off target is: The OP asked for the "half size filter" to fit a certain application, without a lot of information. He didn't ask for the best filter to use or ask price.

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                    • #11
                      I really don't know how much information you need. I f anybody used the shorter filter on a 63/64 Stude V8 they would have the answer.
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                      Claude Chmielewski
                      Studeski
                      http://www.studeski.com
                      Fillmore, Wisconsin
                      47 M-16 Truck
                      53 Commander Regal HT
                      53 2R5
                      60 Lark VIII Convertible
                      60 5E7 Champ pickup
                      62 5E7 Champ no box
                      62 GT Hawk 4 speed
                      63 Lark VI parts car
                      63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
                      64 Commander Wagonaire
                      64 Daytona Convertible
                      50 Champion Regal (parts car)
                      36 Dictator
                      36 Dictator in pieces

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by studeski View Post
                        I really don't know how much information you need. I f anybody used the shorter filter on a 63/64 Stude V8 they would have the answer.
                        Sorry, maybe I didn't word that right. I just assumed it was a clearance problem because of the exhaust, and you didn't need anything but numbers. I went out in the shop and looked at my car to make sure on numbers. I use Wix filters. That being said, the number on the long Wix is 51049 which is 5.178" tall. I put this on prior to driving the car to the muffler shop. He made the exhaust on my 53 to fit around the filter. I had already looked at using a short filter, but didn't have to. The short wix replacement I looked at for mine was 4.3" tall. The number for it is 51258. So the AC pf-24 is a direct replacement.

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                        • #13
                          All the info Claude will need is in Post #6 and repeated in Post 12, so he should be good to go if he comes back and ignores the rest.

                          No guesswork involved, they are both the SAME Filter with different capacity and Lengths.
                          The Short ones for GM Cars with Frame clearance issues. So they both fit a Stude.
                          StudeRich
                          Second Generation Stude Driver,
                          Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                          • #14
                            OK went to the farm store Fram PH25 is the one. Threads and gasket match the PH11, which is the one I usually buy.
                            Thanks everyone. Has to have the short filter because of the crossover pipe. I don't know what was stock, it's just what I have to work with.
                            Thanks again
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                            Claude Chmielewski
                            Studeski
                            http://www.studeski.com
                            Fillmore, Wisconsin
                            47 M-16 Truck
                            53 Commander Regal HT
                            53 2R5
                            60 Lark VIII Convertible
                            60 5E7 Champ pickup
                            62 5E7 Champ no box
                            62 GT Hawk 4 speed
                            63 Lark VI parts car
                            63 GT Hawk R2 4 speed
                            64 Commander Wagonaire
                            64 Daytona Convertible
                            50 Champion Regal (parts car)
                            36 Dictator
                            36 Dictator in pieces

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                            • #15
                              Glad you got it Claude, those would be for the Fram Brand which many have gone away from, since over the years and several "Buyouts" their Quality has gotten pretty bad. But then again, WHOSE has Not!
                              StudeRich
                              Second Generation Stude Driver,
                              Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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