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    I am trying to fix the hood latch bracket on my R1 Hawk and have all the parts but one. The part shown below, it is an L shaped bracket that holds the release cable. I cannot find the part in the parts book and the illustration does not show it either. I talked to the Studebaker West guys and they do not think the part number is in the book either. So I need the part or the part number so I can try to look it up. Anyone know?

    Thanks




    Dan White
    64 R1 GT
    64 R2 GT
    Dan White
    64 R1 GT
    64 R2 GT
    58 C Cab
    57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

  • #2
    Dan it WOULD be on Pg.463 Group 1622 Fenders, Hood, Misc. Sheet metal in the '59-'64 Chassis Parts Catalog.

    It WOULD BE following the 1622-65 1360985 Plate Assy. -Hood Lock for '64K right, before the 4 screws and speed nuts under which the Cable Bracket goes! [:0]

    Carl at Studebakers West is correct, it just is not there!

    OR, does that Assy. consist of more than just the lever, plate and spring? Maybe it INCLUDES the Bracket as a kit!

    It is interesting that the '64K does not even get the same plate as the very similar '63K!

    That leaves you with having to buy it ON SIGHT or description only!

    If we tried to dig the blueprint out of the Museum Archives, we'd be stuck without the part number! [xx(] [V]

    Getting a used one from a parts car is your best bet. It is pretty unusual that a part is simply not shown! [:0]

    Possibly your very best plan is to remove that one you have from one of the cars, and make drawings from it to have the bracket made, as it would be easy to make.

    StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA
    StudeRich
    Second Generation Stude Driver,
    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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    • #3
      Man-o-man..
      I scoured my parts book (to no avail, like you did)
      I looked through the Service Letters, too...
      Nuthin...
      I could have made one in the same amount of time I spent looking
      Good luck on your search...
      Sounds like a Reedsville Karkowitz (sp?) bus search item[]
      Jeff[8D]
      HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

      Jeff


      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



      Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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      • #4
        Okay, here's a thought: the latch plate assembly had a different part number for 64 versus 63 so something changed. Is it possible that the addition of the bracket is the reason for the different part number and it's not actually a seperate piece?

        Dan Peterson
        Montpelier, VT
        1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
        1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)
        1961 Lark Crusier
        1962 Lark V-8 Regal Convertible
        Dan Peterson
        Montpelier, VT
        1960 Lark V-8 Convertible
        1960 Lark V-8 Convertible (parts car)

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        • #5
          I recently bought a NOS latch plate and have pictures of another one and this bracket is not included.

          Dan White
          64 R1 GT
          64 R2 GT
          Dan White
          64 R1 GT
          64 R2 GT
          58 C Cab
          57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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          • #6
            I just checked a Hawk lower valance with the hood latch intact, and it has the solid bar for the release. I thought for sure it had the bracket you are looking for. The other lower valances I have are all the early style.

            sals54
            sals54

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            • #7
              I can't help you with a part number... but thanks for posting the photo... now I know what that bracket is for...from my last batch of plating. sorry- no extras... but I can make one easy enough, or provide you a pattern, measurements, photo etc...

              Ray


              Specializing in Studebaker Restoration
              Ray

              www.raylinrestoration.com
              Specializing in Studebaker Restoration

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              • #8
                quote:Originally posted by StudeRich


                It is interesting that the '64K does not even get the same plate as the very similar '63K!
                The only difference is the lever for holding the safety-latch out of the way






                Specializing in Studebaker Restoration
                Ray

                www.raylinrestoration.com
                Specializing in Studebaker Restoration

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                • #9
                  Here's the one I have:
                  A= 1.25" (length of mount)
                  B= 1.35" (width of mount to center of bend)
                  C= .40" (top of mount to bottom of tang)
                  D= .88" (width of tang to center of bend)
                  E= 2.40" (total length of mount + tang)
                  F= 1.00" (height of tang)
                  G= 2.25" (total width of tang)
                  H= .50" (diameter)
                  I= .75" (to center of screw-hole)
                  **EDIT- the steel is .095" thick





                  Specializing in Studebaker Restoration
                  Ray

                  www.raylinrestoration.com
                  Specializing in Studebaker Restoration

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                  • #10
                    Studeman thanks for the pictures and dimensions. Dennis at SASCO sent me an email that it is indeed not in the parts book but he did find it on the drawings as part #1351373, but did not have any!

                    Dan White
                    64 R1 GT
                    64 R2 GT
                    Dan White
                    64 R1 GT
                    64 R2 GT
                    58 C Cab
                    57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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                    • #11
                      Unfortunately that number doesn't show up anywhere. Not in any of the price lists either. I've been hoping to prove, or disprove, with no luck yet, that this part was actually used first on the side of some transmissions as a bracket to support the end of the overdrive cable.

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                      Dwain G.
                      AL SORAN RACING

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                      • #12
                        Not sure how much interest there is, but there is some. Perhaps Classic Enterprises would be interested in making a run of these? Would not hurt to ask? How many out there would like to have one?

                        Dan White
                        64 R1 GT
                        64 R2 GT
                        Dan White
                        64 R1 GT
                        64 R2 GT
                        58 C Cab
                        57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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                        • #13
                          Bought'cha one at Reedsville..
                          Check your e-mail for the details.
                          Jeff[8D]


                          quote:Originally posted by Dan White

                          I am trying to fix the hood latch bracket on my R1 Hawk and have all the parts but one. The part shown below, it is an L shaped bracket that holds the release cable. I cannot find the part in the parts book and the illustration does not show it either. I talked to the Studebaker West guys and they do not think the part number is in the book either. So I need the part or the part number so I can try to look it up. Anyone know?

                          Thanks




                          Dan White
                          64 R1 GT
                          64 R2 GT
                          http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock
                          HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                          Jeff


                          Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



                          Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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                          • #14
                            Stude Vendor Attaboy!

                            This is a magical place...
                            A 'no number' part is needed...
                            I thought of 'The Stude Parts Bus'..
                            Wasn't 'in stock' on the bus at Reedsville....
                            But Tom said he had one back at home.
                            Showed up in the mail today...
                            Amazing!
                            Thank You Tom Karkiewicz!!![]



                            (After my exhorbitant markup and excessive shipping and handling fee's, this badly needed part will be traveling snail mail up to Dan White[:0])
                            Jeff[8D]



                            Man-o-man..
                            I scoured my parts book (to no avail, like you did)
                            I looked through the Service Letters, too...
                            Nuthin...
                            I could have made one in the same amount of time I spent looking
                            Good luck on your search...
                            [u]Sounds like a Reedsville Karkowitz (sp?) bus search item[]</u>
                            Jeff[8D]


                            http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock
                            HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

                            Jeff


                            Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



                            Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Thanks Jeff and also Tom for finding this part. I would have never dreamed this part was so difficult to find! Tom's bus is really a magic bus and if you have never had the opportunity you should do so where ever Tom parks it.

                              Is this club great or what!

                              Dan White
                              64 R1 GT
                              64 R2 GT
                              Dan White
                              64 R1 GT
                              64 R2 GT
                              58 C Cab
                              57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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