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McKinnon 194 Six Cylinder Performance

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  • McKinnon 194 Six Cylinder Performance

    Okay, so maybe six cylinder performance are are three words that shouldn't be used together, but...

    I've been considering ways to get a little more oomph out of my six banger Cruiser. I don't want to do anything that can't be returned to stock, but have been toying with the idea of a new manifold and maybe some cast iron headers with dual exhausts. Anything that might help it breath a little better and give me a little more kick when getting on the interstate. I don't want no tire burning with my Dana 27, just a bit more driveability.

    I've noticed there are a lot of speed parts available for these engines. So, I thought if Cathcart can fix up a Champion 6, why not a little Stovebolt.

    Something like this:



    My question is, what would actually help? What would a 4-barrel do? What about 2, 1 barrel's, or I've even seen manifolds where you could install a Weber 2-barrel? I can get cast iron split headers for this engine also. Pertronix? Etc.?

    More stuff here:

    http://www.cliffordperformance.net/

    Any recommendations or do I leave it alone?

    ________________________
    Mark Anderson
    1965 Cruiser
    http://home.alltel.net/anderm


  • #2
    How about this.....



    ...sounds like a hive of angry bees at full song []

    Actually, GM made that 7 main bearing 6 used in the 65 and 66 Studes up to 250 cubic inches, so you've almost got the cubes of a 259 Stude. It's a strong motor and lots of speed parts are available. Have at it![8D]

    Correction...actually this motor was made up to 292 cubes!

    Dick Steinkamp
    Bellingham, WA

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    • #3
      quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

      Okay, so maybe six cylinder performance are are three words that shouldn't be used together, but...

      I've been considering ways to get a little more oomph out of my six banger Cruiser. I don't want to do anything that can't be returned to stock, but have been toying with the idea of a new manifold and maybe some cast iron headers with dual exhausts. Anything that might help it breath a little better and give me a little more kick when getting on the interstate. I don't want no tire burning with my Dana 27, just a bit more driveability.

      I've noticed there are a lot of speed parts available for these engines. So, I thought if Cathcart can fix up a Champion 6, why not a little Stovebolt.

      Something like this:



      My question is, what would actually help? What would a 4-barrel do? What about 2, 1 barrel's, or I've even seen manifolds where you could install a Weber 2-barrel? I can get cast iron split headers for this engine also. Pertronix? Etc.?

      More stuff here:

      http://www.cliffordperformance.net/

      Any recommendations or do I leave it alone?

      ________________________
      Mark Anderson
      1965 Cruiser
      My son's first car was (is) a '69 Camaro, 250 cid six with a three-speed floor shift. With nearly 200,000 miles on it he put on an Offenhouser manifold like your picture, "borrowed" one of my Lark AFBs, and installed headers. He could blow away 289 Mustangs with it.
      Go for it.

      [img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/64%20Daytona%20Convertible/Copy%20of%20DaytonaConvert7-20-06.JPG[/img=right]

      Paul Johnson
      '53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
      '64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
      '64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
      Museum R-4 engine
      Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
      '64 Daytona Wagonaire, '64 Avanti R-1, Museum R-4 engine, '72 Gravely Model 430 with Onan engine

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      • #4
        Somebody ought to look at the feasibility of using one of the new
        Chevy Trailblazer inline sixes in a Stude. Buy a wreck and get the engine
        management and all. 270 HP and super MPG as well !
        Bill H
        Daytona Beach
        SDC member since 1970
        Owner of The Skeeter Hawk .

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        • #5
          quote:Originally posted by shifter4

          Somebody ought to look at the feasibility of using one of the new
          Chevy Trailblazer inline sixes in a Stude. Buy a wreck and get the engine
          management and all. 270 HP and super MPG as well !
          Already done...



          Bob and Mimi Halgren's bullet nose is all Trailblazer underneath and inside. Drop dead workmanship []


          Dick Steinkamp
          Bellingham, WA

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          • #6
            IIRC the 292 was a raised deck version so you might want to check hood clearance before getting any evil ideas...

            nate

            --
            55 Commander Starlight
            http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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            55 Commander Starlight
            http://members.cox.net/njnagel

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            • #7
              I have a 65 Commander with a 1971 GM truck 292 cid six and it fits under the hood. I got it and a 700r4 installed and running then got distracted by other projects.


              3E38
              4E2
              4E28
              5E13
              7E7
              8E7
              8E12
              8E28
              4E2
              59 Lark
              etc

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              • #8
                Hey Dick, That Starlight Coupe reminds me of the 60's Drag Racing cars when we would jack them way up for weight transfer. Back to the topic, a six can be made to run fast. It just depends on how much you want to spend. One bolt on item that comes to mind is high lift rocker arms.

                GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

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                • #9
                  Okay, I'm really going to check into this. I don't want to do anything that couldn't be returned to stock, although I'm not sure why I would want to do that. The engine has about 70,000 on it now, so I'm not planning a rebuild anytime soon. But, a bolt on manifold and perhaps some headers with dual exhaust would be cool.

                  What size carb would I need for an install like this? Recommendations?

                  ________________________
                  Mark Anderson
                  1965 Cruiser
                  http://home.alltel.net/anderm

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                  • #10
                    quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser


                    What size carb would I need for an install like this? Recommendations?
                    Looks like in the 250-300 CFM range...

                    http://www.4secondsflat.com/Carb_CFM_Calculator.html

                    Dick Steinkamp
                    Bellingham, WA

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                    • #11
                      quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

                      Okay, I'm really going to check into this. I don't want to do anything that couldn't be returned to stock, although I'm not sure why I would want to do that.
                      Watch it, Mark...when you start coming over to the "dark side", it can be a slipery slope [}]

                      (did you know a 454 Chevy big block will bolt right in to your car [}][8D])



                      Dick Steinkamp
                      Bellingham, WA

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                      • #12
                        I had two of those '65 sixes, and they PERFORMED really well, just as [WAS] - - but then my FOOT only weighs 85# - - the 20k mile one, we had for 23k miles, dotter used it for college, we ran it "all over" [two trips from Chgo to York, for instance], but the OTHER one hauled 23 sheets of drywall on the roof, for one job - took the rear seatback out, and a 6' ladder would fit, with the trunk shut! - - the ONLY thing i ever had to MODIFY was a Water Pump that needed the Fan Flange pressed about 3" farther back on the shaft, so it'd clear the Radiator! - - everything else WORKED, right from the corner parts store..... IN-destructible cars!

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