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Studebakers for Towing?

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  • #16
    Here's an EARLY 90s pic of Pete, before the wreck and subsequent "rebirth", towing a '64 Crusier home for a friend.



    Note the tail end of the Packard to the left. This guy (now deceased) had a bunch of nice oldies sittin' about, but his "prize" was a '57 (58?) Buick Century Limited that had like 9K miles on it.
    He had a couple of Champ trucks sitting there as well. One had an Avanti R2 in it. I don't know what became of the trucks but they eventually disappeared after the guy passed away. I had tried to "score" them, but he kept telling me his kid was gonna make one good one out of the two. [8]

    Miscreant adrift in
    the BerStuda Triangle


    1957 Transtar 1/2ton
    1960 Larkvertible V8
    1958 Provincial wagon
    1953 Commander coupe

    No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.

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    • #17
      My wife and I have been towing travel trailers for about 48 years, almost as long as we have been married, and our original tow vehicle (And you may laugh at this!) was our '53 Champion coupe with manual transmission/overdrive and all of about 85 rated horsepower! We first rented a neighbor's 21' Airstream for a week, and then bought a little 16' trailer that we used for a couple of years before getting a bigger trailer that we towed with the first of a long line of Ford station wagons or pickups.
      The Stude pulled these trailers up to about 50 mph without much trouble, and with electric brakes on them, the weak Champion brakes on the car didn't cause any problem. In fact, I recall being able to stop more quickly with the trailer behind us!
      Now we have a 30' travel trailer pulled by a Dodge/Cummins pickup, but we might have had more fun with our original setup!

      Jerry Buck
      Racine, Wisconsin
      '53 Champion Coupe - C (owned since 1956)
      '61 Lark VI Convertible

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      • #18
        LOL Hey Jerry, I know what you mean about brakes! My '62 Champ stops way better pulling the horse trailer than solo!(LOL)

        By the by, Mr Biggs; Pete went through a transformation like the butterfly emerging from the dead caterpillar's crysalis. He looks like one of mine in that picture. Now Pete is truely a thing of beauty. Gives me hope for mine.


        Home of the incredible Mr. Ed!
        Lotsa Larks!
        K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
        Ron Smith
        Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?
        Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
        K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
        Ron Smith
        Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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        • #19
          My brother used his '64 Lark Daytona to tow a small 4x6 trailer across
          country from California to Michigan in the mid 90s. We upgraded it to
          disc brakes and the trailer hitch from our '63 Lark Wagonaire.

          My dad hauled my moms '59 Chevy Impala convertible all the way from
          Michigan to California with his 1963 Lark Daytona 4spd/4:56 rear end.

          So I bought a 1995 Impala SS, added a class III hitch, and plan to tow
          my '63 Avanti to shows with it. I figure its only fair.[)]



          Of course, chances are I will want to DRIVE the Avanti instead.

          Tom

          '63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: 97 Z28 T-56 6-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires
          '63 Avanti R1, '03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves.
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          • #20
            A buddy has a 64 wagonaire with an R-1 engine and four speed. It has disc brakes and AC. I am thinking of buying it and using it to pull my race car and other things. The drivetrain came out of a 35K mile vehicle. I am thinking it would not be hard to beef up the rear springs if it is too soft.

            It has the 3.31 TT rear end.

            anybody have a prediction for fuel economy with this setup towing or non towing?
            Diesel loving, autocrossing, Coupe express loving, Grandpa Architect.

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            • #21
              The 3:31 will be a bit "doggy" off the line & you might go through clutches sooner than most but should be fine on the highway. Wagonaire's have heavier springs to start. You could always install a pair of 70's Camaro air shocks to level it.
              59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
              60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
              61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
              62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
              62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
              62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
              63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
              63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
              64 Zip Van
              66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
              66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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              • #22
                Originally posted by t walgamuth View Post

                anybody have a prediction for fuel economy with this setup towing or non towing?
                Others may have success with a stock R1 engine in a daily driver, but I haven't. The compression ratio is 10.25/1. IMHO, today's premium fuel is not high enough in octane to run this motor without severely knocking the timing back. At the timing required to avoid detonation, you have lost a lot of power. Again, others may have found the secret to run this motor, but I never have.

                For a stock 289, 4 speed, 3.31, I would expect 11-13 around town and 15-18 highway. Less when towing. I'd also be careful with the weight you tow. The car would have enough power to pull a race car on a trailer, but without 4 wheel trailer brakes, it would have a difficult time stopping that load.
                Dick Steinkamp
                Bellingham, WA

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                • #23
                  Hey lotsalarks, are you shure about the weight on that trailer? I have a 20' Nomad from the late 70's, and the plaque on it gives the weight as 5000. You can take the trailer to a public scale and have it weighed if there isn't a weight given on the plaque. That said, if the trailer has electric brakes then the modern controlers that you install in the tow vehicle are amaizing. Like in a previous post said " you won't know the trailer is there". I'd also agree that just about any of your Studes should not have a problem towing even a 5000 lbs. trailer.

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                  • #24
                    Back in the early 70" We made a trip from California to Minnesota, we towed a 21 foot Shasta trailer With my 60 1/2 ton and had a slide in camper on the truck, along with were my wife and the 4 kids and one dog, in the closet was 35 case of Coors beer for my brother you could not get it in Minnesota back then, the truck was a fresh R-1 with Air, heavy duty T85 with overdrive and a TT 427 rear end and the hitch set up was an equalizer type with spring bars and anti sway set up, ran like a top all the way there across the high desert in 2nd over at 2500 rpm and the brakes were changed to 11' Fin drums, when I got back from the trip I changed the engine as I wanted to save the R-1 so I installed a 413 Chrysler with the push button tork flight and Chrysler 330 rear end never had a problem pulling the trailer or any thing else with that set up, so yes Studebakers can be used for towing.
                    Candbstudebakers
                    Castro Valley,
                    California


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                    • #25
                      Lori,
                      I currently tow the Avanti (over 5000 lbs.) on a two axle all steel trailer (1500 lbs.) with the Stude camper. 289, 3 speed with OD, 4.88 axle. I am planning to switch to a 4.30 axle soon. It tows fine until I get to high altitude. One recommendation, supercharger or turbo. You don't need much, maybe 3 or 4 lbs boost but at high altitude it will really help. That is my plan when I switch axles. By the way a late model GM truck class 3 hitch is the same width as a Stude truck frame. I can post pics of the installation if you need them. It's a bolt in set up at the frame.


                      Dan

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                      • #26
                        My experience with towing has taught me it is always easier to get moving than to stop. Just make sure your tow vehicle is in good shape, excellent cooling and excellent brakes and you should be fine, good luck and enjoy that air stream.

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                        • #27
                          I am sure Lori has figured out what to tow her trailer with by now. Her post was from 6 years ago!
                          Carey
                          Packard Hawk

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Dads Baby View Post
                            I am sure Lori has figured out what to tow her trailer with by now. Her post was from 6 years ago!
                            Probably, but I think the responses of recent are to #20 which was posted yesterday.
                            Dick Steinkamp
                            Bellingham, WA

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                            • #29
                              Dick, I understand, but I was responding to #23 and #25 where they addressed Lori. Although all the info is very informative!
                              Carey
                              Packard Hawk

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dads Baby View Post
                                Dick, I understand, but I was responding to #23 and #25 where they addressed Lori. Although all the info is very informative!
                                Got it. I missed those two.
                                Dick Steinkamp
                                Bellingham, WA

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