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'53 - '54 Radiator Saddle Orientation? (Was: Picture of "radiator balk")

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  • Cool/Heat: '53 - '54 Radiator Saddle Orientation? (Was: Picture of "radiator balk")

    I wonder if anyone have a picture of the balk holding the radiator & also the fenders together for a -54 (maby also -53?) Coupe/Hard Top (if it's different from sedan?). The thing is that I've got one from a Hawk but I don't know if it's the same + what side is front of it.
    (The car's old welded-together-customized-front is sold & now I'm trying to get it together more original style.)
    This is the balk:
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    (as you can see the "ears" points one way & I don't know what's front or back of it & if it's a "Hawk only")
    Last edited by showbizkid; 09-21-2019, 05:54 PM.
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    Josephine
    -55
    Champion V8
    4d sedan

  • #2
    My 53 Starliner doesn’t have those “ears”.
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    • #3
      Thanx for the pic! But I think it actually does have the ears; that's what's holding it onto the frame, look at the lower part in your picture... But it seems they're not pointing front- or backwards so I'll have to cut & weld.
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      Josephine
      -55
      Champion V8
      4d sedan

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      • #4
        OK, a "Balk", good to know.
        A Radiator Saddle is known as a Balk in some Countries.
        Studebaker calls it a Radiator "Support".

        Sedans and the C and K Models ARE different.
        StudeRich
        Second Generation Stude Driver,
        Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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        • #5
          Does this picture help any? This is my 53 coupe (C body)Click image for larger version

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ID:	1729458 The brace (round rod) is welded on it and is in the front, as pictured. Also notice the 5/16 screw holes (top front)

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          • #6
            Nox, yours look like the ears are in the center. I’ve looked closely at my car, just don’t see them.

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            • #7
              Ah, didn't really know what to call it Rich, sadle would be what I'd pick. Maby it looks like the ears on mine are centerd but they're not Tim, & now since I've seen Flashback's picture I also see that it's the same as mine so the rad sits back a bit compared to the ears that bolts it to the frame, thanx a LOT!
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              Josephine
              -55
              Champion V8
              4d sedan

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              • #8
                Nox, Some people refer to them as Balkhead saddles. You playing around with ships would shorten the expression.

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                • #9
                  A bulkhead (spelled with "u") in a ship is the wall between different compartment Alan, I didn't really know what to call it, sadle seems best now that I've seen it spelled out, so I just called it a "balk" as a beam but I thought a beam is always straight while "in some countries"(?) it could be called "balk" straight or bended but for a sertain use, such as framebalk for example... Anyway, got my answer & life runs on...
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                  Josephine
                  -55
                  Champion V8
                  4d sedan

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                  • #10
                    It's been a while since I worked on this & just now I was gonna do a bit but when I tried to put in the radiator sadle, the swaybar is in the way; to high up! So yeah, I can put a bunch of washers under it but then the fenders might be to high at front...
                    Is there anybody else who's been running in to this problem?
                    Going back there now to see if I just had a baaad dream...
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                    Josephine
                    -55
                    Champion V8
                    4d sedan

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                    • #11
                      Nope, reality it is for me just now! So I took pictures of it:
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                      Josephine
                      -55
                      Champion V8
                      4d sedan

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                      • #12
                        Nox, Stude used a spacer .500" thick and a few smaller spacers stacked up to align the fenders.

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                        • #13
                          Yes I thought about that but the gap by the doors will be rather strange then. Then I also thought that when the engine & gearbox goes in the lower A-arms outer ends will go up & maby the middle bit will go down..?
                          But that would cause the radiator sadle & sawy bar to knock against eash other when jumping on a rough road...
                          Just can't figure it all out yet.
                          & maby this ought to be moved to tech talk..?
                          Last edited by Noxnabaker; 09-21-2019, 02:51 AM.
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                          Josephine
                          -55
                          Champion V8
                          4d sedan

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                          • #14
                            Yep, thinking this ought to be moved to the Tech Talk colulm but I don't know how & if it would help...
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                            Josephine
                            -55
                            Champion V8
                            4d sedan

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                            • #15
                              This is a radiator frame from a 54 Champion sedan

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