What is the right color for the oil filter canister on a 54 Commander 232 ? Orange, with black lid? I see orange with black lid, green with black lid, and all black. Been Google searching and my dealer/salesman brochure doesn't show it. Thanks
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Last edited by poweroptions; 03-26-2019, 08:03 PM.1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45Tags: None
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That's the one pictiure I don't have, from the '53 Commander we had. I do know it was not orange, I think it was the same OD green as the rest of the engine, but it may have been black. Orange with a black top would be a Fram filter, Delco filters were dark blue. I've had each on '54 Chevy's.sigpic
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None were Green from the Factory or a Dealer, those are "owner painted".
The Dealer installed Fram F3 or F4 Filters with the C3 or C4 Elements were Orange with the Black Lid, Studebaker Vendors have the proper Decals to make them look Great and correct.
Most of the few Oil Filters that were actually factory installed, were just ugly, solid Black, nothing to write home about.
Owners sometimes did an aftermarket install of a Walker, Hastings, Purolator or other Oil filter, but not likely a GM Delco.
Last edited by StudeRich; 03-25-2019, 12:06 AM.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
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Agree with Rich. It may have different in the early years, but after WWII, Studebaker usually installed Fram filters. The factory-installed units were black with the usual decals. The dealers were provided with kits that were the same (except for the Stude-unique parts) as the ones that Fram provided for other makes. These were painted orange.Skip Lackie
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Originally posted by Skip Lackie View PostAgree with Rich. It may have different in the early years, but after WWII, Studebaker usually installed Fram filters. The factory-installed units were black with the usual decals. The dealers were provided with kits that were the same (except for the Stude-unique parts) as the ones that Fram provided for other makes. These were painted orange.1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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On a Modified/non-Original Red/Orange Engine, I would probably go with the Gloss black, it's your Engine & YOUR choice!
Just know that most were Orange with Black Lids, but to my eye that would not look great on Red/Orange.
Are you going to have Black Valve Covers?StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
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Agreed on the 54 but... There is an exception to the post war process of not painting the filter engine color, that is the 55 Speedster. I have owned numerous Speedsters, over the last fifty five years, and all of them that I can remember, had dark blue canisters. Of course I can't speak for all of the Speedsters that were produced, but as in many small features, Speedsters were treated to a little differently during the production process. For instance upon seeing an engine that I had just pulled from a Speedster, Rip Stephenson, and old drag racer, took one look at the engine and indicated that it was a Speedster engine. I stood there dumbfounded, how could he know that it was from a Speedster, I hadn't said anything to that effect. When I asked him how he knew it was from a Speedster, he pointed to several areas on the block casting where someone had used a grinder to smooth out the casting. Turns out that he had seen numerous engines with this treatment, and all had come from Speedsters. As an aside, he also indicated that whenever he was choosing an engine for a large overbore, he would look for a 55 engine. The redesigned engine was new and there was no sand casting shift, as in subsequent iterations.
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostOn a Modified/non-Original Red/Orange Engine, I would probably go with the Gloss black, it's your Engine & YOUR choice!
Just know that most were Orange with Black Lids, but to my eye that would not look great on Red/Orange.
Are you going to have Black Valve Covers?1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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Coming together after 3 years of work. After the engine is completed next is the new wiring loom from Larkworks.1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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Originally posted by poweroptions View PostSo I have been stripping mine down , it's one of the last items I need to paint. It was presently orange, next layer is blue, next layer is black, and the final layer is engine green. Which way do I go? Our 52 Champion is orange (chevy engine) I like it cause it just adds some color under the hood. However I am trying to do up my Commander as close to original as possible. Is the green the way to go ? I have all my decalsGary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostOn a Modified/non-Original Red/Orange Engine, I would probably go with the Gloss black, it's your Engine & YOUR choice!
Just know that most were Orange with Black Lids, but to my eye that would not look great on Red/Orange.
Are you going to have Black Valve Covers?Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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My production order say F4 under oil filter . Todays pictures of my engine if anyone gives a hoot.
Originally posted by studegary View PostHis 1952 has the different engine. The 1954 that he is asking about, he is trying to keep stock. refer to my post #10.1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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Don't know why the picture turned upside down. I am getting all the replated chrome back on.1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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Beautiful car. What exterior colors are those?RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.
17A-S2 - 50 Commander convertible
10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
10G-Q4 - 51 Champion business coupe
4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon
56B-D4 - 56 Commander station wagon
60V-L6 - 60 Lark convertible
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Originally posted by RadioRoy View PostBeautiful car. What exterior colors are those?
It is Safford Cream with Ontario Blue roof and Flax vinyl interior. The camera distorts the blue in all of my pictures. The blue is a beautiful deep turquoise1942 Packard Clipper Custom Touring Sedan * 1952 Studebaker Champion Regal * 1954 Studebaker Commander Regal Starlight * 1967 Thunderbird Hdtp * 1969 Continental Mark III * 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible * 1972 Buick Riviera * 1973 Continental Mark IV * 1978 Glass Top Lincoln Town Car * 1983 Mercedes 300SD * 1986 Dodge RAM 4WD * 1999 Infiniti Q45
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