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  • Fuel System: Has anyone out there installed an electric fuel pump to correct long cranking times.

    I am thinking about installing an electric fuel pump to help correct my long cranking time after the car has set for a few days. I am aware that this is a typical problem on older cars due to the evaporation of todays fuel and the fact that they have open vented fuel systems. I have a 63 Lark Daytona, 289 4 barrel. If you have done this I would like to know what electric fuel pump you used and how did it work out. Thank you and have a nice day. Bob.

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    Sorry guys, I am new at this. I see that someone else has a post regarding electric fuel pumps. I will do a better job regarding posting an item the next time. Bob

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    • #3
      keep in mind that most (almost the most) engine wear is at start ups. by cranking with a good starter, you do pump oil up into those dry areas that prolonged sitting has created.....

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      • #4
        Starting fluid is your friend. All it takes is just a couple of squirts into the carb, crank it and, you're G2G. It saves my starter and my 289 fires right up. Keep your hood open, make sure you have a fire extinguisher nearby, but if you don't overdo it, you're all set.
        "Every man I meet on the street is superior to me in some respect, and from that I can learn."
        R.W. Emerson

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        • #5
          Yes; I've had one for years on my Lark and Jeep and would never go back to a mechanical one. Getting a good one is the problem. I've had several name brands on the Lark and failed me. When I bought my M38A1 back in the mid nineties it had a cheapo foreign one and has never let me down.

          Gene
          Gene Shambaugh

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          • #6
            I've got a Toyota electric pump as an auxillery just for priming on three of my cars. It's just in line with the stock mechanical pump, and works great. The Toyota pumps were $8 on Ebay.
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            • #7
              I got mine at Pep Boys. About $50 bucks. Been working for 9 years now no problem.

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              • #8
                I don't use an electric pump on my cars, but I have installed them on several cars that had long crank times after sitting for a while. I do recommend installing a Ford rollover or collision switch in the hot wire to the pump in case there is a collision. The shock from the collision will turn off the pump reducing the chance of fire after the accident due to the fuel pump continuing to run after the accident. Bud

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                • #9
                  I installed a Hardy fuel pump on my 63 Daytona. Works a treat
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                  • #10
                    thanks everyone

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dleroux View Post
                      Starting fluid is your friend. All it takes is just a couple of squirts into the carb, crank it and, you're G2G. It saves my starter and my 289 fires right up. Keep your hood open, make sure you have a fire extinguisher nearby, but if you don't overdo it, you're all set.
                      I have heard that startling fluid is a good source of blown head gaskets because it is so explosive. If I have to resort to something like that, I use WD-40. There is always a can of that around.

                      BTW, I put electric fuel pumps on all my 12 volt cars. They help relieve vapor lock in the hot California climate, particularly at altitude. They are mounted like Bensherb's pictures.
                      RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.

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                      • #12
                        I put electric pumps on every car I buy. I can't stand the new fuel which evaporates in 3 minutes. Nor do I like the heat we get here sometimes in the Summer. 105+ temps REALLY don't like mechanical pumps.
                        sals54

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                        • #13
                          Two different solutions to empty carb problem:

                          My newly purchased 6 cyl '63 Champ has many "improvements" installed by previous owner. The original mechanical fuel pump was removed and an electrical one installed. It was mounted on right inner fender near carb. Truck starts instantly but constant click, click, click noise is very annoying. When I get around to it I'm going to remove it and install the proper stock pump.

                          My other Champ is a 289 with AFB carb. I used to remove air cleaner and pour some gas into carb. Effective but messy and crude. Then I realized since problem is empty fuel bowl why not just fill fuel bowl. I got a small squeeze bottle and fill fuel bowl through the vent tubes. Problem solved but I still need to remove and replace air cleaner. Next time I need gas I'm going to try non-ethanol marine fuel. Hopefully octane is sufficient and there will be no pre ignition.

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                          • #14
                            I would strongly suggest that anyone installing an electric pump would abandon the mechanical pump entirely and run the fuel line directly to the carburetor. The mechanical pump is firmly bolted to the block, and gets quite hot. This can cause vapor lock problems in the pump itself at idle, or in the carb, since the pump serves to "pre-heat" the fuel. The electric pump delivers much cooler fuel, and reduces the chance of vapor lock. I would also recommend installing the electric pump with an oil pressure switch to shut it down in the case of a crash or engine failure. A momentary (push button) switch can be used to run the pump to prime for start, Or, a time-delay relay can be used in lieu of the button.

                            I have seen electric pumps installed in series with the mechanical pump. In addition to the heat issues, this arrangement can fill the crankcase with fuel in the event of a diaphragm failure. Bad idea.
                            Jim Bradley
                            Lake Monticello, VA
                            '78 Avanti II
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rerun View Post
                              I would strongly suggest that anyone installing an electric pump would abandon the mechanical pump entirely and run the fuel line directly to the carburetor. The mechanical pump is firmly bolted to the block, and gets quite hot. This can cause vapor lock problems in the pump itself at idle, or in the carb, since the pump serves to "pre-heat" the fuel. The electric pump delivers much cooler fuel, and reduces the chance of vapor lock. I would also recommend installing the electric pump with an oil pressure switch to shut it down in the case of a crash or engine failure. A momentary (push button) switch can be used to run the pump to prime for start, Or, a time-delay relay can be used in lieu of the button.

                              I have seen electric pumps installed in series with the mechanical pump. In addition to the heat issues, this arrangement can fill the crankcase with fuel in the event of a diaphragm failure. Bad idea.
                              Ditto Ditto and Ditto
                              sals54

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