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  • #16
    +1 on above.

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    • #17
      Just noticed that earlier I said I overhauled the master cylinder. I mis-typed and ment wheel cylinders. But anyhow.... I have torn the brakes apart, ordered new lines and a rebuild kit for master cylinder. I did not get a rebuild kit for the hill holder... oops.. I will need one because I messed up... pictures to follow with a few questions..........

      "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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        "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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          "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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            "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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              This is where I messed up..... I left this in the parts cleaner.. and the grommet warped and cracked.. Some say I should have left the hill holder alone. Have I screwed myself over?

              "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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              • #22
                How many hills do you intend on stopping on?
                If you are a good heel and toe man and don't have to feather the throttle to keep it running, the hill holder is not necessary.
                Nice to have tho.

                I replaced my MC with a Turner Dual Pot system after nearly crashing a few years back.

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                • #23
                  I do not plan on parking or stopping on many hills. And I am pretty good at heel/toe

                  "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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                  • #24
                    I'm just impressed that you got the Hill-Holder apart!
                    They are usually REALLY tight.
                    Don't know just what is included in a rebuild kit, but those kits do exist.

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                    • #25
                      Your car may not be all that specific. Again, the parts are often shared between different models and even a truck.

                      If you could post a pic of the housing/body- we could compare it more easily. The book shows only a few choices back then. The internal parts are often shared and it is usually just the rod or the mounting holes that make one different from 'the rest'. If I read the book right, there is only 2 bore sizes between a dozen years of cars.

                      You can also just by pass the hill holder, but it is such a cool option on a 80 year old car, I don't think I would...

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                      • #26
                        Years ago, after endless problems, we bypassed the hill holder on the 1937 President sedan. Agreed it is a great feature when working right, but... I always thought that I would play with it later, once the brakes were working properly. The upshot was that the problems went away, and it was just one less pain that I had to deal with.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hallabutt View Post
                          Years ago, after endless problems, we bypassed the hill holder on the 1937 President sedan. Agreed it is a great feature when working right, but... I always thought that I would play with it later, once the brakes were working properly. The upshot was that the problems went away, and it was just one less pain that I had to deal with.
                          How did you go about bypassing it? different master cylinder?

                          "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by (S) View Post
                            Your car may not be all that specific. Again, the parts are often shared between different models and even a truck.

                            If you could post a pic of the housing/body- we could compare it more easily. The book shows only a few choices back then. The internal parts are often shared and it is usually just the rod or the mounting holes that make one different from 'the rest'. If I read the book right, there is only 2 bore sizes between a dozen years of cars.

                            You can also just by pass the hill holder, but it is such a cool option on a 80 year old car, I don't think I would...
                            Here are the housing pictures..
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                            "Spilling a beer is the adult equivalent of a kid letting go of a Balloon."

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                            • #29
                              I bypassed the hill holder on my 63 Hawk by disconnecting brake lines and installing a jumper line between two of the lines.

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