Anyone ever done a trans swap with a ford AOD onto a 259? I know there’s a conversion kit available for a 700R4 but would prefer an AOD since they are more readily available and less expensive.
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Originally posted by 62 GT Guy View PostAnyone ever done a trans swap with a ford AOD onto a 259? I know there’s a conversion kit available for a 700R4 but would prefer an AOD since they are more readily available and less expensive.Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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Make it easy on yourself, go here, http://www.cpttransmission.com/ get one of their transmissions, get a GM trans. adapter, no mixen-matchen-machining required, all a simple bolt in.
The T-200-4R is a better trans. than the T-700-R4 is, that's why GM made the change, they learned from their mistakes..! While I don't know much about the Ford AOD's, the GM versions are just as capable (if not more). Art Carr (web site above) tests all of his transmissions before they leave his shop, so there is no surprises. He has three different levels of power capabilities to choose from.
Mike
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Originally posted by 62 GT Guy View PostAnyone ever done a trans swap with a ford AOD onto a 259? I know there’s a conversion kit available for a 700R4 but would prefer an AOD since they are more readily available and less expensive.
BTW, both the 700R4 and the AOD seem to have the TV Cable that confounds many. The 700R4 also has a 3.06 1st gear as opposed to the AOD 2.40. Some my hate that and others may like it. I have a 700R4 with 3.07 rear gears and I like it.Last edited by wittsend; 01-15-2019, 01:09 PM.'64 Lark Type, powered by '85 Corvette L-98 (carburetor), 700R4, - CASO to the Max.
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Originally posted by swvalcon View PostMy trans guy used to call them Ford DOA's.
It was introduced in 1980 Passenger Cars, 1981 F100/150 2WD & E100/250 300/302.
People drove the vehicles in overdrive in heavy stop and go traffic.
The constant shifting up/down in/out of overdrive fried the AOD's guts and it didn't take too long for this to occur.
People also towed in overdrive, same thing occurred, the trans fried its guts.
Heat is the mortal enemy of the AOD, install the largest external trans cooler you can find and stay OUT of overdrive in heavy traffic!Last edited by WinM1895; 01-15-2019, 01:42 PM.
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One drawback to the 200-4R over the 700-R4/4L60 is that the 200 is 3.062" shorter than the 700, so you'll end up with a drive shaft just under 60" long. That is a LONG shaft, most places, if they'll make one that long, will use 4"-4.5" tube; much larger than the stock 2.75" tube; which will make tunnel clearance tight. Of course you could backdate it and change to the early C/K two piece shaft.
When I swapped from the stock overdrive three speed, in my GT, to a 4L60 I had to lengthen the drive shaft 3" to 55" and went up to 3" tube. Most places recomend at least 3.5" tube at 55".
Depending on which Ford AOD you use it will be 3/8" shorter or 7/16" longer than the 700R4/4L60.
Making an adapter plate is not that tough if you have the tools and measure well. Remember, you will also need an adapter for the flex plate.
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II don't know the last time anyone was in a yard looking for either a 200r4 or a 700r4 but they are not exactly falling out of trees either, its been what? ten to fifteen years since a 200 or 700 r4 were put in cars new?Kenneth Smolecki
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While you're throwing money at it and looking for a Ford transmission, try this;
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Originally posted by spokejr View PostWhile you're throwing money at it and looking for a Ford transmission, try this;
https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech...-transmission/
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There is such a thing as having too many gears in a transmission. Multi-gear transmissions are better-suited to Euro-style engines withs peaky torque curves, not to the Stude 289 with a broad torque curve. And I don't think that there wil ever be a real scarcity of 700R4's or 200 4R's for a few decades, yet. But having alternates to the GM conversion is never a bad idea. What sort of rep does the Mopar 4-speed automatic have? One of the potential deal-breakers with electronically-controlled transmissions is the lack of a speedometer cable drive.Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands
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All the overdrive auto have a much better starting ratios than a second gear start Flightomatic most of the overdrive autos were factory equipped with rear axle ratios way lower like 273 or similar. Having had both Ford and GM overdrive autos in rear wheel applications with ratios of (2.73 3.08 3.55 3.73 GM transmissions) (3.08 3.55 4.11 Ford)/ I preferred the Ford Mercury Lincoln combination Verses the Olds Chevy systems
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