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  • Transmission / Overdrive: flat towing

    can a '53 with the stock automatic be dolly towed 75 miles without hurting the transmission?
    gfperry

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    Any transmission that can be push started (like Studebaker) and have a rear pump, should have the driveshaft disconnected.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by arkusvt View Post
      can a '53 with the stock automatic be dolly towed 75 miles without hurting the transmission?
      With that rare and expensive transmission, I would not chance it for that distance. Disconnect the drive shaft to be safe. Of course you can do it if you put the car on the dolly backwards or put separate wheel lifts under the rear, but I do NOT recommend either of these.
      Gary L.
      Wappinger, NY

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      • #4
        thank you both for the input; i wasn't sure. now looking for a trailer to use!
        gfperry

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        • #5
          U Haul trailers work great!! BTDT. Luck Doofus

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          • #6
            Originally posted by doofus View Post
            U Haul trailers work great!! BTDT. Luck Doofus
            ...unless you tell them you will be towing it WITH a Studebaker! Their online booking system doesn't like that.
            Mike Davis
            Regional Manager, North Carolina
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            • #7
              Rent a pick-up and 4 wheel trailer, wear out their equipment not yours. Luck Doofus

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bezhawk View Post
                Any transmission that can be push started (like Studebaker) and have a rear pump, should have the driveshaft disconnected.
                Actually, you can flat tow a transmission that has the rear pump.

                If you do not have a rear pump, the problem is that the transmission does not get lubrication without the engine running. That’s what does the damage. Studebakers do have a rear pump, which lubricates the transmission when the rear wheels are turning even with the engine off.

                I have over 30,000 miles of toll dolly experience. A lot of them were Studebaker‘s. Since they have a real pump, I never had a problem.

                One warning – make sure you are in neutral. Otherwise, when you had about 20 mph, the transmission will start turning the engine :-)
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                • #9
                  Actually, not they were not designed to be driven by the output shaft. there are sprages (one way clutches) there is not provision for prolonged reverse thrust.
                  "I do it all the time" is not the same as a manufacturers recommendation.
                  Last edited by bezhawk; 08-29-2018, 06:32 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bob Andrews View Post
                    Actually, you can flat tow a transmission that has the rear pump.

                    If you do not have a rear pump, the problem is that the transmission does not get lubrication without the engine running. That’s what does the damage. Studebakers do have a rear pump, which lubricates the transmission when the rear wheels are turning even with the engine off.
                    I'm glad you made this comment because it was exactly my thoughts. However, if I remember well what they said in Chilton's or Motor's, you could do this only for a limited distance. I'll try to check this this evening.
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                    • #11
                      I also thought there was an issue flat towing because of the caster on the front. Through the cobwebs I recall you had to tie the steering wheel or something?
                      Ron Dame
                      '63 Champ

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                      • #12
                        I have also towed a lot of 1956-1964 Studebakers with the rear wheels on the ground. However, I would not do it to a 1950-1955 with AT.
                        Gary L.
                        Wappinger, NY

                        SDC member since 1968
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                        • #13
                          I checked my Chilton's. Their recommandation is a maximum of 15 mph for a maximum distance of 5 miles. This also applies to FlightOMatics.
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