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  • Ignition: New HEI distributor option

    Just came across this on Ebay. Three color options and a reasonable price.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-1...cAAOSwpYdakv6w

  • #2
    Posted here:

    http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...er-Distributor

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    • #3
      I hadn't seen that post. However, there are concerns expressed in the previous post about advance problems which appear to be addressed with the springs included with the distributor. I don't know about gear quality - but what is not made in China anymore?
      The vendor has 18 thousand + transactions with 99% satisfaction.

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      • #4
        Until someone tries one of these and reports back all of the issues are pure speculation. My R1 had a non-R Delco distrib for years before I changed it out and never had an issue. I have not seen either MAXX or this vendor with any complaints that these distributors have issues.
        Dan White
        64 R1 GT
        64 R2 GT
        58 C Cab
        57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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        • #5
          I like the small cap.
          What does the ad mean by E-Coil?
          "In the heart of Arkansas."
          Searcy, Arkansas
          1952 Commander 2 door. Really fine 259.
          1952 2R pickup

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 52-fan View Post
            What does the ad mean by E-Coil?
            I assume it means you should use an electronic coil, like one of the Ford "blue tops". Seems they want a guaranteed high voltage delivered to the distributor.

            Clark in San Diego | '63 Standard (F2) "Barney" | http://studeblogger.blogspot.com

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            • #7
              ...As "R1Lark" reminded me regarding the MAXX unit; They're Chinese manufacture... If the quality of the steel used in the distributor cam gear isn't compatible with the camshaft, the gear will spall, shred, self destruct, etc and distribute all those metal flakes around your engine...
              64 GT Hawk (K7)
              1970 Avanti (R3)

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              • #8
                OP's find, a CRT Performance Unit:
                https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-1951-1964-Studebaker-V8-232-259-289-304-Small-HEI-Distributor-
                BLACK/352290838305?hash=item52062b9721:g:rJcAAOSwpYdakv6w


                With a Triple Lead Connector AND the 4th. Wire and no "BOX" to plug it into, and also the Centrifugal Advance has to be assembled and Added. In Blue, Red or Black Caps for $169.98


                And THEN there is the Maxx 99648K Dist. for Only $139.99 with a Module or Box to plug it into:

                https://www.ebay.com/itm/MAXX-99648K....c100005.m1851

                Both cheap, Chinese copies, one of the OTHER with questionable Quality.
                AND, no way to know which one copied the other or if any actually WORK.

                Stock Stude. Distributors have ONE wire, Pertronix Electronic Conversions have TWO, I don't know WHAT you do with FOUR and no mating connector!

                The Male Studebaker Spark Plug Wires will not fit the Male Terminal Cap.

                Of course Electronic Ignition requires a 40,000 Volt Coil, so for $199.00 you get a CRT Performance Dist. with an Ugly Steel Box Coil!

                https://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-1964-S....c100005.m1851
                Last edited by StudeRich; 02-26-2018, 02:40 PM.
                StudeRich
                Second Generation Stude Driver,
                Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                • #9
                  A couple of points on this topic. If one would just look at the posting for the "HEI" distributor on ebay, a wiring diagram is available. It appears that this is very similar to the Ford TFI style HEI setup. So, not a big deal on what goes where. And Yes Rich there is a mating connector and wiring!!!!! If you also look on the MAXX website you can see they also are virtually the same dist.

                  Second point. I have been active on this forum for many years and hardly a week goes by that someone complains why no one makes aftermarket performance parts for Studebakers. Well there is the size of market that we all know very well (does anyone really think Mallory or MSD is going to make a billet Stude dist??), but when someone actually does make something affordable for CASO folks this forum erupts into naysayers that the product is junk without any evidence! Where do you think SI and other Stude vendors get most of their repro parts - CHINA, and maybe India! I have no dog in this hunt as I don't need a new dist, but as I noted before until someone actually tests one of these everyone is just blowing hot air. I don't see any complaints on ebay or elsewhere that these distributors have issues.

                  I know I would never try to enter the Stude aftermarket as I would be done before I got started with this crowd. I am also in the Hudson club and we are grateful when anyone makes something for our Hudson vehicles and give them a shot to see if they actually have a quality product.

                  Dan White
                  64 R1 GT
                  64 R2 GT
                  58 C Cab
                  57 Broadmoor (Marvin)

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                  • #10
                    NONE of that was visible, due to too small and fuzzy, and the Charts turned sideways, useless.

                    Here is what they "SHOW" that you supposedly get:

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                    Last edited by StudeRich; 02-26-2018, 03:13 PM.
                    StudeRich
                    Second Generation Stude Driver,
                    Proud '54 Starliner Owner

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 64V-K7 View Post
                      ...As "R1Lark" reminded me regarding the MAXX unit; They're Chinese manufacture... If the quality of the steel used in the distributor cam gear isn't compatible with the camshaft, the gear will spall, shred, self destruct, etc and distribute all those metal flakes around your engine...
                      I have purchased one of the electronic distribtors. I may try to install the gear from the take out distributor. Is the gear coming apart fact or speculation.
                      Hawkowner.

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                      • #12
                        The trouble with material compatibility is in 51- early 53 steel billet cams. And some of Contraris Cams rollers. Best way to check is to drop the cam on the ground on it's end. The billet will ring and the cast cam will have a dull thud.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hawkowner View Post
                          Is the gear coming apart fact or speculation.
                          Hawkowner.
                          It was presented as a "What if"...
                          64 GT Hawk (K7)
                          1970 Avanti (R3)

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                          • #14
                            I bought a CRT Performance HEI for my 65 Ranchero with a 200 l6. Runs great! Its not this one of course, but same brand. Maybe the advancement could be faster but its no sports car.

                            If youre worried about the curve, theres a guy on the Fordsix website that recurves distributers, wsa111, hes out of North Carolina. He charges $75 plus any cost for special springs (usually not needed). Just pay shipping as extra. Nice knowledgeable guy. He redoes everyones distributors over for the Ford people but i dont see why he cant do a Stude. Hes got one of them special curve machines. Just give him the best you can for your specs, like tranny, rear gear, and some engine specs like special cams. Im sure he can change out parts like gears as well too, he cures oiling deficiencies common on DS11 ones.

                            We need one now for the OHV 6

                            Good luck Stude Brethren
                            Ryan

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                            • #15
                              I have researched reviews of CRT sales of other models of what appear to be the same distributors and found no negative ones. I sent an email to CRT regarding the
                              gear but have not received a response yet. I will post it when I do.
                              By the way I would think one can use a stock looking coil such as a Pertronix which puts out the 40,000 volts.
                              I agree with Dan White on this. I am not in the market (although I wish I were) as my cars have already been converted - one with an expensive distributor with Pertronix guts.
                              One additional thing. The HEI units need the spiral wound plug wires for best performance.

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