61 Champ engine swap info needed

[studebakerkid]

On this T cab why do you want to go with a V8? I have a 20R in one and it has more horsepower then the OHV. A 20R with an overdrive would work well with that gear ratio differential.[

[studebakerkid]

I am in Union Gap and my phone number is 509 452-2827

[StarDiero75]

StarDiero, it sounds like Studebakerkid has the best offer - l'm 2 1/2 hours east of Detroit!

Thanks for the input, everyone! You guys are the best. It's amazing - so much knowledge right off the top of your heads from experience!

With your input and of course consulting with the guy doing the job, lll have to make a decision soon.

Thanks again!

Sounds like so. Thatd be a fun road trip though haha.

[StarDiero75]

I have a complete head just sitting in my loft.

Man, whats your area?

[STEWDI]

StarDiero, it sounds like Studebakerkid has the best offer - l'm 2 1/2 hours east of Detroit!

Thanks for the input, everyone! You guys are the best. It's amazing - so much knowledge right off the top of your heads from experience!

With your input and of course consulting with the guy doing the job, lll have to make a decision soon.

Thanks again!

[swvalcon]

Roger If you decide to go the small block chev there's no point in going with a 283. The 350 is the same size and weight , easier to find so should be cheaper and there are a lot of them out there in used decent shape. Plus they have a longer stroke than a 283 or 327 that will work better in a truck. They are the same from when they first came out in 69-85 only change was the dip stick was moved the the right side in 1980. Even the 86 up will work but the heads are different I think in 88 so it takes a special intake to go with a carb intake unless you stay FI.

[StudeRich]

The 6 Bolt Cover Tranny you have in the Six, is a T-86 Case T-90, setup for the Six Cyl. Clutch, meaning it has a tiny Input Shaft.

Stude. V8's COULD use the Med. Duty T-86 like a Car, but because they were expected to be able to carry Loads, all the later V8 Trucks have H.D. T-89's with a T-85 Case, using a Left Side Cover.

[studebakerkid]

Now for the transplant you could also use a McKinnon and an adaptor plate and your current BorgeWarner transmission. You need the 65 adapter plate to do this but others besides me must have these sitting around.

[studebakerkid]

I have a complete head just sitting in my loft.

[StarDiero75]

Depending where you are, i may want to take that engine/or just the head off your hands. I have a 61 Lark OHV 6 and id like a backup head, so long as yours isnt cracked. The whole thing would be nice too

[Alan]

The 55-62 Chev OD trannys worst part was the round shafts that came out of the side of the case. The shift arm bolts would loosen up a little and the arms would come out of adjustment. You would have to crawl under and line everything up again, a dirty job. That and second gear would always shed teeth. If I were going to use a Chev trans. I would use a mid 60's to 80's Saginaw 4 speed and put the 3 OD behind it. Bolts right up with no need for an adapter.

[Skip Lackie]

Chevy had a BW o/d tranny available '55-'62, so will a small block of that vintage just bolt up?

Don't think anyone answered this part of the question. The Chevy OD transmissions were made by Muncie, not Borg Warner. They were relatively light duty units, and were only available on the 6 and the low-horsepower versions of the 265/283 V8. They are similar to the BW units in design, but nothing interchanges.

[kamzack]

Hey Roger,
I've just finished a conversion from an ohv crack head 6 to Stude V8 wit overdrive. mine is 61 and came with 6 wit O/D and 4:55. First thing was I located a 4:10. Truck sat many years and wasn't lomg til head problems artose. Bought nudder engine/trans, wasn't long before I had worse problems wit da engine. Started poking round lookin for an 8 I could afford. Long story short bought engine OD combo 259, T85 truck trans. It takes 4 truck mounts to mount engine. Trans hangs off bellhousing. I'd asked several Stude truck guys bout using 6 cyl OD trans. no. I have a car V8 OD trans but seller of engine made me a trade deal for da T85 dat was on the engine. Mine has factory b'house so no dialing in. Had drive shaft shortened bout 2" Had to make a small bracket to mount clutch shaft bracket on the trans. 6 clutch shaft wouldn't work as.
If you'd PM me I'll give you my email and phone and will discuss it. I have parts numbers for motor mounts and can walk you through da process I did. Simpler than doing SBC for a number of reasons.
Guy I got my engine from may have nudder engine and he does have motor mounts and a good guy to do business with. I'm very happy with engine/trans I got from him, runs near perfectly.
Hope this helps,
Kim

[swvalcon]

I would only go with the stude V8 if you can find a good one at a reason able price. You can buy and rebuild a small block chev for less money with a 200 or 700r4. The overdrive of both would still work with your 4.27 gears. My truck has 4.10's and runs under 3000 at 70. Speedway motors has both the motor mount and trans mount for the chev in universal fit.

[thunderations]

Get a Stude 259 or 289 with the bell housing and O/D trans attached. Swap it all into the Champ. You may need to have a correct length driveshaft made or yours modified to fit.